Negative response to the 12 cilindri design

There's nothing "just because" about that engine. It's magical, at least when it isn't suffocated with GPFs and mufflers.

I still walked away, because you're right, it doesn't matter if it doesn't add up to the experience you want. But I struggled with it because I had been so excited to spec a car with that glorious engine. Pretty sure that's what he's working through.

 

Boy oh boy, we have a lot in common pal as I also have a Roma Spider too and agree that it's very playful and provides more thrill from the exhaust. My impression having driven the 12C is that it's truly a GT as the standard seats were very comfortable and the car felt commanding at every opportunity to goose it. But to your point, the exhaust is muted, not visceral unless you're accelerating very aggressively. I'm tall too and found the cabin spacious but would get the glass roof for the same reasons. The blind spots are real however if you rely on the side mirrors blindspot warning lights, it becomes tolerable. The spider version is probably the same even top down because of the huge buttresses. I've seen some pics of the 12C in black and the car looks quite differently, more cohesive but the contrast elements can also be appealing. Ferrari should offer a sport exhaust system for countries (like the US) outside of the EU that aren't burdened by their regulations. I'm holding an allocation spot too wanting the experience of owning a naturally aspirated 12 cylinder from Maranello but also curious of what they're unveiling this month.

 

I did spec my RS and love it. I was excited about the car at launch, put down a deposit that day, got more excited when initial reviews/videos were positive, and then it far exceeded expectations once I took delivery. It's a keeper for sure. As @joem said, it's playful and has a great sound. Also more versatile than I expected while always being an "event".

Spot on! You noted before they made a true GT and that is accurate. It's a great car and I welcome it being a GT. That said, I also expect it to be "an event". It still could have been and it really is not.

 

You should test drive an 812 GTS. Yes, you won't get to spec it, but you might like it, or maybe you won't. But, at least you'll know. The Roma is a great package as well.

 

+1

 

My first impression of looking at it is oh, it is smaller than the pictures, oh the strip is uglier than I thought. The sound is notoriously more mute than my 812 GTS.

Didn't mean disrespect to those who ordered the 12C. I am just glad it makes me have less reasons to play the Ferrari games further.

 

Good for you - saves a lot of money

 

I agree with you, from a dynamic standpoint, it's an underestimated car.

 

I have owned at least 3 V12 Ferraris that I drove a lot more than 13,000 miles and none of them blew up (also owned a couple that i drove for less). The engines themselves are quite bulletproof ... it's a lot of other **** that goes wrong from time to time.
Having said that ... anything after my 2013 FF ... was super solid all around. No major issues ... I wouldn't worry about it on a modern car.

 

How many Ferraris did you own in the past?

 

You are not going to like the sound at all but if you can put that thought aside I think you are going to love the engine response and transmission.

 

is that an issue with the dealer? My dealer has never played that with me. If he says he will have me an allocation, he does.

 

Something is very wrong then. I have only been in the Ferrari game four about 2 years and just gave away my 12C Spider Allocation. I simply prefer the 812 GTS in every way possible and have no interest in moving on anytime soon. Ive also put 10K miles on it and it’s been fairly flawless. The dealership I built a relationship with offered me a 12C Spoider fairly easily. Shouldn’t be that hard given your history….

 

Yes I agree with everybody else. Discuss your situation with a different dealer. Something is off.

 

you chose wisely my friend

 

I’m sorry to be stumped with your sandstorm comment - Dubaicity is just my nickname in the forum because I was there when I opened this account and other nicknames were taken already at that time
As everyone can see my location is Germany.

I guess there must be more than one Ferrari dealer around Malibu so with your Ferrari history try to change your dealer.
Some of my friends did that out of different reasons here in Germany - your dealer situation can’t get worse.