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Is EAG gone

Discussion in '360/430' started by Tbailey, Feb 17, 2024.

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  1. Austintxch

    Austintxch Rookie

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    Ha good point, the 599 is pretty robust. I had a Maserati GT briefly, I never had everything working at the same time.
    He tried to play that game when I was CEO. Art was selling kits to installers internationally and not delivering products. I bet he tried to convince you the install and associated service revenue would be worth it. If you need Ferrari and Lambo conversion parts I would contact MMWX, they are reliable, fair and honest. I do not work with MMWX at all, I just know the guys there and they are good.
    One installer Art ripped off posted about his experience in this forum. He had a class action started against Art/EAG. Art's investors and myself cleaned that mess up, naturally Art screwed us also.
     
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  2. Austintxch

    Austintxch Rookie

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    The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. — Albert Einstein
     
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  3. anotherred360

    anotherred360 Formula Junior

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    Whoever was first to solve the tuning side of the conversion was the biggest factor in making it happen imo. Inevitable after that.
     
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  4. one4torque

    one4torque F1 Veteran
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    Who knew there could be sooo much drama around the car business?!!!
     
  5. KnifeEdge2k1

    KnifeEdge2k1 Formula Junior

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    There's always drama around things that keeps care about.

    Especially when it comes to Ferraris/supercars vs just random daily 9-5 commuters.

    These products are fundamentally experiences as opposed to cold objective quantitative commodity goods. A ferrari is an product that we experience emotionally, none of us are using them in a manner where any of these things we claim to care about actually have an objective consequence (we're not racing where 10ths can make our break careers). When I buy a torque wrench I'm not emotionally invested in the product.

    Aftermarket products/services of these fundamentally emotional goods, are even more susceptible to drawing out strong emotions. We're taking a very emotional niche product and then slicing out a sub set of people who care even more than normal about this that they're willing to spend more money/time than the general population to modify it.

    Add to this that the base product (Ferrari) is already quite high end/expensive/aspirational and you have a perfect storm for big emotional reactions one way or the other.

    It reaches religious levels of devotion/disgust.

    Compare this to some other hobbies like golf, or cycling, or watches, or hifi stereos. In each of these hobbies there's no shortage of snakes oil salesman selling BS mixed in with products which are actually different (in a good way).

    Inevitably you always have some group of enthusiast who think they can buy their way into something akin to prestige in this niche via the shortcut of money as opposed to actual work (whether that work by physical or mental or whatever). There's no shortage of companies who know and use marketing to profit from this. These same "hack" enthusiasts will also fervently defend their choice of "whatever" because their identity and sense of worth in this hobby is so tired in with their selecting of whatever that they can't afford to be wrong about it. This can be a certain driver in golf or a specific component they just spent 1000 dollars on to replace on their 20,000 road bike that saved 20 grams, or some crazy ass component in their hifi stereo that cost more than a Lexus (we all remember "high end" hdmi cables which cost 500usd being touted as must haves by home theater nerds right?).

    We ALL do this to some degree or another because it's human nature to dig in rather than reassess. Short of being in a life or death scenario we don't really like admitting we're wrong or even opening up ourselves to the opportunity to bring proven wrong. We want to feel good about spending ungodly amounts of money and time in our hobbies so sometimes we invent reasons to justify it.

    It's a strange strange thing our minds. We (as humans) always try to justify many of our decisions in pseudo objective ways...instead of simply acknowledging that our actual thought process was "we thought it was cool/we liked it for very superficial reasons".... "we can afford it".... So we bought it.

    No we have to justify it some other way. Noooo we got this because it adds 10 hp, because the sound is sooo much nicer, because this thing saves 2lbs of unsprung weight, bla bla bla. It's"boy math" and it's as stupid as girl math.
     
  6. Finpat

    Finpat Karting

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    ^ Sir, I like your reasoning and agree with it.
    Cognitive dissonance and ex post rationalisation are strong on highly emotional acquisitions.
     
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  7. bamaman

    bamaman Formula Junior

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    Face it, all of us on this forum are emotionally attached the Prancing Horse. I for one am proud to say so.
     
  8. KnifeEdge2k1

    KnifeEdge2k1 Formula Junior

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    Yes but should we be as irrationally attached to our car as we are to a shifter kit? An after market suspension setup? A set of wheels?
     
  9. colorfull

    colorfull Formula 3
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    YES :)

    Maybe

    So many of us are!
     
  10. KnifeEdge2k1

    KnifeEdge2k1 Formula Junior

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    lol ok to each his own then
     
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  11. mrp_e

    mrp_e Formula Junior

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    Glad you didn't mention fitted luggage.
    I had a Schedoni addiction there for a bit.
     
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  12. tbakowsky

    tbakowsky F1 World Champ
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    I would be very careful. You are the client shops and merchandise peddlers play on. They will empty your wallet. Ferrari is just a car. All the hoopla is marketing. Be cautious.
     

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