That’s how it was when Ross Brawn, Jean Todt and Schumacher were with Ferrari. They ran at it as separate division within Ferrari. Actually I remember reading an article where Luca Di Montezello was having an issue with Ross and Jean calling the shots.
The management at Ferrari are shocked by today's performance at Montreal, according to the Italian press. F1 Oversteer writes that Vasseur will be judged by the 3 next GPs. If the results don't improve, he will be replaced, but they don't say who by.
Yes, if they embarrass themselves on the European swing I think it'll be over for him. Even if he’s not at fault they’ll need to show some kind of publicly visible action taken.
It doesn't make sense to fire Vasseur unless you also get rid of the people who hired him. Ferrari's last glorious and successful era was the Brawn/Todt/Schumacher years. They were Alpha males who wouldn't tolerate failure. The sport has evolved, on the track, on the pit wall, and in the corporate offices...it not only has spawned the Brad Pitt/Hamilton movie...it has become just like it...a pile of Hollywood hoke. Two decades of increasingly obese cars, powered by culture-correct technology and fuels, driven by people who spend more time on the simulators than in the cars and on a race track. Artificial Racing brought to us by Artificial Intelegence...aka...stupidity.
F1 is all about management now…tire management, fuel management, “racecraft” (a misnomer if ever there was one)…All that plus the near-elimination of personal risk and rewarding mediocre performance, subjective judgements about infractions by a cast of technocrats, etc., etc., etc. Not just F1, though….all forms of racing suffer one way or another. It’s now motivated by financial, not sporting, considerations.
Share holders driven company now. Their ego won't let them stop interfering with the race team. Time and time again we've seen it in F1, the moment the top brass starts getting involved, issues arise. Jaguar, Toyota, Ferrari, BMW, Honda, Renault/Alpine, Red Bull, Ferrari again
Well, he was CEO of Ferrari and that was less than 50 years ago. He's Italian, and has a good reputation in Italy with the press... so he can take the heat while the team figure things out... that is what they need someone to run interference... right now its Vasseur and Hamilton... and the team are looking on thinking... what's next... when the boss is in trouble, the rats run to hide... Elkann and Vigne are not taking the heat... they are passing it down... that is the problem. At Least with LDM... he was happy to be in the mix, and take the heat.
Well that is not going to happen, he just got elected for another term as Chairman / CEO of Ferrari.... I did not vote for him but did for Piero.
Are you talking about Piero Lardi-Ferrari ? His father removed him from the Gestione Sportive once, if I am not mistaken. I don't think Enzo Ferrari had great trust in his surviving son.
Well, the movie portrays it otherwise. Yes, I know, it's a movie. Even the mother(grandmother) and Enzo's wife have it out in the kitchen about giving Enzo a "healthy" son knowing Piero Lardi(Ferrari) was from another women. Enzo's wife had a hard time handling that notion because her son(Dino) wasn't "healthy" and passed. Old school mentality back in the day.
yes, As a share holder you get to vote on the board composition .... he is Executive VP vice chairman... yes, Enzo removed him from the GS, back during the Enzo & Barnard vs. Picinnini and Posthelwhaite war - Piero was on the side of Doc Harvey... with Alboreato.
The movie was fairly accurate of Piero's youth... He was always around the factory and the team. When Enzo was dying, he tried ( un successfully) to get to the top of the racing team... but Enzo had arraigned with Angelli that Fiat would take over the GS... and incorporate it into Ferrari SpA. at the time Enzo owned the racing team outright, and was paid a stipend by Fiat every year ... and until 1977 he was paid a lease fee from Fiat for the Factory, buildings, land etc... Fiat bought all that from Enzo and finalized it in 83. All this happened when the FIAT logo showed up on the F1 cars in 77...
Maybe, but Ferrari had a better chance with Newey and Ferrari let that slip by-->"Who's this Englishman telling us what we should do with our F1 dept?" (Maybe Ferrari should suck up their humungous Italian Ferrari pride and suck it up for once). That's my 2 cents......
I think its more like Newey did not want to live in Italy. Its a great place to visit... but to work and live? I think he knows the politics and how it operates and that is not him. He's always wanted to be more than a designer / and be one of the team principals + design.... Ferrari would never let that happen. Aston Martin we'll see. So far Stroll has given him what he wants, so its a pretty big put up or shut up moment in 2026 for Newey.
I believe you can work remotely due to the technology in communications via satellite....anyways.....Lawrence gave more to Newey than Ferrari did. It seems Lawrence knows how to wheel-and-deal when you got money, more so on the wheel-and-deal than Ferrari.
I get the remote thing, but ultimately you have to be there when testing, doing sim work and wind tunnel... Until Brawn and Todt, no English have survived at Maranello long.... the politics just eat you alive. sadly its still that way.
Vasseur needs a counter part similar to Brawn / Todt. The hypercar WEC guy Coletti (?) would be good.
Disagree. Antonella Colleto(head of the WEC 499P project) is just fine where he's at. F1 and WEC are 2 completely different animals. A hat-trick(2023-2024-2025) at Circuit de la Sarthe is quite the feat in the hypercar class.
I can't remember where I read that Colletta has already turned down TWICE the offer to take over the role of F1 team principal at the Scuderia. I can well understand that.
My point is let him continue what he is good at and consult on F1 without taking over the team. He can continue WEC and advise on the side. As Ferrari already know and yet are ignoring and as red bull have shown. There needs to be multiple people leading the team.
Ferrari never replaced Jean Todt, he was the buffer between the Racing team and the Suits... allowing Ross Brawn and Schumacher to be the thermostat for the culture. No gimmicks, no politics just engineering and racing.... I actually think Ferrari should listen to Lewis, many of you on here dont like him but one thing he knows is how to win. He knows how to develop a car, Mercedes lost their way when they stopped listening to Lewis. He is not as quick as Leclerc anymore but he can direct the team and Leclerc will benefit. Will they give him that opportunity? I doubt it. Vassuer is not the problem, but he will be scapegoated and the cycle repeats.
