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328 GTS 1st Gear Wont Always Engage?

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  1. Jerry458

    Jerry458 Karting

    Nov 6, 2024
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    Recently we rebuilt the shifter box assembly and did the torture job of the shift shaft seals in the sump. We adjusted the fork and shifter rod that seems almost perfect in each gear in the gate as you shift it with the car not running. First drive all gears worked then 1st stopped engaging but Reverse works as it is on the same fork. Reverse never stopped engaging.

    all gears line up correctly in the gate and I notice if i stop, shift into Reverse hard then into 1st it will engage 1st most of the time. Anyone here know what is causing this and what ajustments I need to make? I really do not want to drop the sump again.

    I think I may need to tweak the shifter shaft adjustment under the car just a smidge. the fork is not falling off the selecter inside the gearbox otherwise no gears would engage it is just 1st causing the issue. 2-5 work perfectly fine
     
  2. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    One easy test you can do to rule the clutch operation in, or out, as the problem is:

    With the car on level ground, engine off (and nothing directly in front of it) put the transmission in 1st gear, push the clutch pedal down, emergency brake off, no brake pedal, and engage the starter = if the chassis lurches forward, something in the clutch system is not OK. If it doesn't = your problem is elsewhere (which it probably is).
     
  3. Jerry458

    Jerry458 Karting

    Nov 6, 2024
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    Hi Steve it def seems to an adjustment at the rod, for me to adjust the shift rod length would you suggest i put the car in any particular gear to prevent the selector fork from spinning off inside the gearbox ? Also should i use the gate as the physical guide here which is what we did when we buttoned the car up. I adjusted it under the car with my friend in the drivers seat selecting all gears to the shifter went into each gated slot about the same distance. I think it might need a 1/4 turn on the adjuster.
     
  4. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Don't know what you mean by "spinning off", and probably think that it is something else, but just thought you should eliminate the clutch operation as an easy first test that doesn't require getting greasy ;). Having all of the six gear selections work OK with the engine not running (after not doing anything further downstream inside the gearbox) is a sign IMO that the adjustment is OKish, or did I misread your message? -- but certainly no harm in trying readjustment.
     
  5. Sergio Tavares

    Sergio Tavares Formula 3

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    There are 2 ends to the shift rod, so just to be sure to ask
    has the gate metal impede the ability to shift in first at any way?

    shifter position adjusted in gate start at time 04;30

     
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  6. Jerry458

    Jerry458 Karting

    Nov 6, 2024
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    Just like this video shows how in their case 2nd gear wasn't fully clicking to engage i think this is what 1st is doing it engages but needs a little bit more throw to fully engage it and get the resistant click into place. i will work on this soon to see if we can get it done without dropping the sump again
     
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  7. rwbolt1

    rwbolt1 Karting

    Sep 10, 2006
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    I have a similar 1st gear issue, but it's completely random. Maybe 1 in 100 starts at a stop when 1st gear won't engage. Fortunately, 2nd gear pulls nicely from a standstill. It hasn't bothered me enough to start tearing stuff apart. I do believe my clutch needs replacing soon, as I did need to adjust my clutch pedal position, so my issue could be related to that.
     
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  8. Sergio Tavares

    Sergio Tavares Formula 3

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    yes, as the video say crack only one nut from turnbuckle then lengthen 2nd gear engagement throw.
    They then say that only crack two nuts to change the gate to shifft rod position
    They make it seem that all can be done outside transaxle
     
  9. moysiuan

    moysiuan F1 Rookie
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    That is most likely the shifter adjustment. I can't remember the adjustment as this was done many years ago by a mechanic to address the infrequent intermittent issue you describe. I had thought it might have been a syncro issue at the time. I vaguely recall the idea was that if you could move the lever just a tad further left in the gate for first it would work as intended, so the shifter rod adjustments getting the lever centred in the gate discussed here would seem to apply.

    My main comment point is I don't think the clutch would be the culprit here.
     
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  10. Jerry458

    Jerry458 Karting

    Nov 6, 2024
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    I drove the car around earlier it is definitely not clutch related as the clutch and flywheel was done last year by a shop. It's so odd that 1st works only if i engage R or 2nd prior. I looked before and the shifter stalk is touching the 1st gear gate where as all other gears there is a tiny gap so this has to be the reason and it might need just a 1/4 turn on the turnbuckle below to let it slip into 1st properly. I am waiting for a friend to help me with this later this week but should be a simple enough fix and I will report back once I do.
     
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  11. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    That is a classic symptom of some unwanted mechanical drag somewhere in the clutch system -- bad pilot bearing, misadjusted clutch cable (or the cable having sliced down thru a non-rolling plastic roller), warped clutch disk, etc.. Having your "clutch and flywheel was done last year by a shop" proves nothing...
     

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