What's the most important thing to you out of the next wave of Ferrari's?

'Pretty' ended with the F8 and the 812 Competizione.

 

I find the complaints about hybrid cars and the 6 cylinder comical. IMO- mostly ignorance. Drive one aggressively for a reasonable length of time and it’s revelatory.

I have owned new Ferraris since 1989. The 296 is a spectacular achievement. The performance, driver involvement, and entertainment is off the charts. The sound is quite good but not as spectacular as a 355 or 458. I hate turbo cars and I forget this car has them because it has none of the performance disadvantages and all the positives. The car is a go cart- small and nimble. A rocket ship and capable of putting its’ immense power down on the road. The fit and finish is top notch. The modern interior makes my 812GTS or almost any car- feel dated (yeah the haptics can be annoying but quickly fade to irrelevant). The car is hardwired to my brain. What a miraculous achievement.

 

I dont think anyone really complained about the fact the LaFerrari was hybrid when they were delivered, but they do with the SF90 and 296. I personally think because the LaFerrari had a N/A screamer V12 mounted instead of the current turbo engines...

 

Could be that people just collect them- as they aren’t exactly driven much.

On the other hand- I agree with you. Theoretically, that’s a better combination (without turbos). In practice, the 296 is a spectacular achievement.

 

yes, I agree. The 296 is quite the anomaly .... I can't think of another car ever made of any brand that was SOOO good in ALL ways, especially in driving and performance categories as the 296 but yet, remain so undesirable. (well, maybe the SF90 can be included). Myself included that I would just never want one due to the aesthetics, hybrid, screen layout/function and haptics. It's quite sad actually but they'll continue to drop in price despite being such a good driver's car.

 

What’s wild to me is that the overwhelming takeaway from this thread is: damn, as long as it looks good, we’re golden. Not speed, not dynamics—And look, I get it. Ferrari’s rarely been the fastest, but it’s usually in the neighborhood—a couple blocks drive to the ballpark.

And sure, the “style over substance” jab isn’t new—non-Ferrari folks have been trotting that one out forever. Almost 20 years of F1’s Ferrari clown show isn’t exactly helping the cause either.

But I gotta push back hard on this whole “just be pretty” narrative. Yeah, EVs made straight-line speed boring and cheap—but if a modern Ferrari can’t even crack the top 5 on Track X, that’s a problem. At least to me. Apparently, it’s just me and one other jabrony left in the corner still caring about lap times while everyone else argues over dinner reservations after the parade lap.

 

Undesirable? Only by the ignorant- IMO. PS. You left out complaining about the number of cylinders.

 

THREE: Ferrari has now secured three consecutive outright victories at the 24 Hours of Le Mans for the first time since the 1960s, when the Prancing Horse won six editions in a row between 1960 and 1965.

 

I like what they are doing so far other than reducing the cylinder count, better car, but psychologically hard to over come. Most nah sayer simply have not own one extensively. Shemee150, Gentleman's Garage, Exotic Car hack, Tomi Auto are real owners. Their review is more valid than a regular tester that test for a few hours.

I was super early adopter to hybrid supercars. I had 5 nsxes, 3 of which were hybrid, 17, 19, 22 Type S, while having other cars in stable at same time, several NA V8, V10, V12 Ferrari and Lambos including several gated manuals, and special models during the same period. People always asked why a Honda/Acura hybrid when you have Ferrari, Lambo, Mclaren, Porsche? Instant torque and Laferrari/918/P1 was out of my league. Speed is easy, 1000~2000hp Huracan/GTRs. Instant torque is hard, can't be obtained without hybrid or EV.

My 992 Turbo S blow the door off any year hybrid NSX on paper and most of real world situations, but it lacks responds, otherwise perfect car. 10 times out of 10 times street start NSX will jump off the line 1 to 2 car length due to instant torque. If just get up and go by pressing gas pedal, the 992 turbo S is minimum .5 second delay before it start to rocket forward hard unless launch control is used, gives that sluggish feel, same for Mclarens. Artura fixed that. In most of everyday driving, there are a lot of stop and go and speed limit, if a car is sluggish get up and go how is it fun? Look at how responsives 992.2 GTS is compare to 992.1 of any kind, the 992.2 Turbo S will be a perfect car once it is released.

Having also had 488 and F8 as well. I thought it was not possible to get better with F8 Tributo, instant torque, crazy near EV like of instant responds, 720S like of rolling acceleration, just the most perfect rwd super car and drop dead gorgeous, only weakness was traction, even sounded great. Then 296gtb and SF90 just took it up another level or 2. More instant responds than NA, none of that annoying turbo lag or delay or pause of any kind.

As far as weight goes, 296 and SF90 is not that heavy, they each feels similar to cars that weight 500lbs lighter. Just for example my aventador SV is over 4000lbs, carbon tub, no hybrid, no turbo. SF90 is about same weight as 812 and 400lbs lighter than Reveulto (dragtime weighted both his SF90 and Revuelto). 296 is about same weight as 992 Turbo S, 992.2 GTS. A hybrid NSX is about 3800+lbs but feels like Mclaren 570S weight (I had both at the same time back in 2017).

 

296 is awesome, hybrid or not. Anybody that says it's a dog has not driven it.

And it’s hilarious—people say Ferrari’s lost the plot. But by modern standards, I guess the ideal Fezza needs to be slow, track-only (gotta keep it light for crash regs), gated, straight-piped, and of course, art-on-wheels levels of beautiful.

Luckily, there are still plenty of Challenge cars out there, which the peanut gallery won't buy either.

epic drive, Really happy for Robert, Yifei and Phil, especially Robert. Well be lucky to get 2nd place (again) in F1.

 

I voted improve styling. I miss Pininfarnia almost as much as I miss Luca di Montezemolo.

Joe

 

How bout a simple ask. Make a half way decent looking
mid engine non hybrid V8 that doesn’t sound like a Dyson vacuum cleaner . A proper sounding Ferrari.
Is this really to much to ask for ?

PS. I didn’t vote because there was no exhaust/ sound option.