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Help Please - Re-bodied (?) 250 GT

Discussion in 'Recreations & Non-Period Rebodies' started by davy26, Mar 19, 2025.

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  1. davy26

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    I photographed this good-looking '61 GT at Brands Hatch yesterday. I had intended to speak to the driver/owner about it, but circumstances prevented this. I am looking to correctly determine the model type, which from one source is given as 250 SWB GT Berlinetta Competizione, but another says it's a converted GTE 2+2. I'm just wondering please if an expert here may be able to offer me insight/guidance in order to accurate identify this handsome GT?

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    David
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  2. miurasv

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    Ferrari based replica built in the UK by GTO Engineering. Will use the ID and mechanicals of a real Ferrari such as a 250 GTE 2+2, 330 GT 2+2, 250 GT PF etc. May have a scratch built chassis by GTO Engineering or a one of the above chassis modded and shortened.
     
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  3. davy26

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    Thanks Steven - I really appreciate such a very prompt and helpful reply. With kind regards, David
     
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  4. epdowd

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    What is the serial number?
     
  5. miurasv

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    Although it has the ID of a Ferrari, this replica may have an engine and gearbox manufactured by GTO Engineering rather than the genuine Ferrari items. GTO Engineering also manufactured and installed their engines with a higher capacity than 3 litres.
     
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  6. davy26

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    Thanks for your interest Tom, but I'm afraid I didn't get a chance to check this., Regards, David
     
  7. davy26

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    Further thanks Steven. Fiscal record shows the car as '61, so I think the idea that it's based on a donor GTE is right, and the engine capacity is as would be expected for a Tipo 168 at 2953 cc. With kind regards, David
     
  8. epdowd

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    I agree. Another GTE gone...
     
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  9. Mark Shannon

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    I think it is on GTE #2881.
     
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  10. bigodino

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    Yes.
     
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  11. roma1280

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    So many GTO engineering fakey doos
     
  12. davy26

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    Thanks Mark for the suggestion. I gather there's a growing sentiment that the loss of GTEs to donor status is really to be regretted. One understands the temptation to 'create' a GT or GTO - and the car I photographed at Brands certainly does look handsome - but whatever may be the initial intentions, it's impossible to rule out a duping of someone further along the ownership/age chain. As with the debate about restoration or preservation, a cautious approach is surely to be preferred as radical changes cannot simply be undone. Regards, David. PS - some more photographs of the car here.
     
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  13. roma1280

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    Yes, David, I don’t see the appeal in creating something fake by destroying something real. I don’t think you’re a real Ferrari fan if you do that, just some sort of poser maybe hoping to trick people into thinking it’s an original? I can’t explain the motivation.
     
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  14. davy26

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    Another 'evocation,' this one at the cost of a '69 365 GT. Seen here at the AutoItalia show at Brooklands last month, the car is apparently known, with Ferrari's blessing, as a '365 Speciale.' The Testa Rossa style body was made by Giovanni Giordanengo and the chassis of the car, #13473, was shortened to accommodate it. The car made £393,750 at an H&H sale in June '22. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
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  15. roma1280

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    Endless fakes from GTO engineering. Should be crushed like we do with replica watches.
     
  16. TTR

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    I disagree.
    I hope someday well heeled true enthusiasts will have enough courage to acquire and get them restored back to their original configuration, even if it doesn’t seem to make financial sense.
    Talk about individuals worthy of real admiration and respect.
     
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  17. roma1280

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    I think they only keep the chassis number, I may be wrong, but I believe these are literally fakes, like a Chinese Rolex.
     

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