With the white or silver stripe constrasting against the exterior carbon, the wheels work here, in my opinion. You can also easily (overpay and) buy the carbon wheels separately later as they're offered on so many cars now.
Tri colore stripe is very Ferrari, I don't like the wheels, maybe special (white) paint or carbons in white carbon. Would tie the white in somewhere if possible.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that a large engine is a bad thing, per se. The Ferrari V12 is the stuff of dreams!!! All I am saying is that usually American manufacturers have to resort to larger displacement than their competitors in order to achieve similar performance. It is no secret that GM bought a 458 and reversed engineered the engine during the C8 Z06 development, only making it larger. It is no bad thing learning from the best in the business, but it shows something. Of course it is commendable how they productionise such machinery at a fraction of the cost of their fabled competitors (even though they are not really competitors in the market). Please don't paint me as an American car hater, I like many American cars including Corvettes and Mustangs. But they are not at the same level as some of the European royalty. Now regarding the mammary glands, you spoke like a true American, i.e. bigger is better. LOL! I prefer a smaller but firmer breast. Huge udders are for cows. All this in jest, no offence meant toward women. Have a nice Sunday, sir!
Woah - GM bought a 458 engine on e-bay. GM engine has 10% more hp than 458S. So much for better Ford GM simply doesn't apply the mark up like Ferrari - brakes wheels etc are far less and same. My Ferrari 612 brakes wore the same brakes as Subaru - paid .10 cents on the dollar from Subaru dealer. Viper engine was Lamborghini - who do you think owned Viper and there was more carbon than any Ferrari at 145k and wore same leather as Ferrari. This European royalty is a joke - most the part used by Ferrari are not made by Ferrari - in fact very few parts are made by Ferrari. Ferrari is a boutique factory - for that reason it carries a panache and status. I own a lot of both and one is no better than the other. One may recall Lambo V12 F1 with Senna disaster. Anyway ; the VS is a perfect example of Italian design and performance from Ferrari, The ZR1 simply did it better at 1/5th the price - no one is surprised by either example. They both represent the brand well.
I haven’t always agreed with you in the past, but 100% agree with your past few posts. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Thanks! It's interesting to read by a poster that US large engines are bad, but V12 Ferrari is glorious. Aston V12 is based on a Ford engine Cadillac built a V16 working car but canned it. Since I know where this is going - V8 engines used in NASCAR must be largely production based - people think F1 engines are better / lighter weight. Nascar and their fans want their sounds - F1 lost that and fans hate it. F1 vs Nascar engine - both are on par - F1 has more restrictions but they are both works of engineering art. Won't go into the whole V8 thing but there really is way more disadvatges to V12 than advantages. SF90 ZR1 proven.
Corvette ZR1 price in the US is $178K AFAIK (https://www.caranddriver.com/chevrolet/corvette-zr1) , 5x178=890K. I do not know the US price of the 296VS, but I guess one will need to get a load of options to reach 890K. That does not change the fact that the ZR1 seems to be tremendous value for money, but to me actual facts are always better than approximate claims.
We have already already established that you do not understand maths, no need to make it even more obvious. The Speciale makes 134.5 CV per litre, while the Z06 makes 123.5. This must be the funniest thing ever written... I don't even know how to respond to it.
Ever? You need to get out more, maybe if you owned a GM product you would understand size matters. We grow em big in America - therefore we apply more power. Germany invented it - US dominates it. Welcome to reality. Anyway - I would love to hear how GM used reverse engineering to build something bigger and more powerful. You ignore the meat and potatoes - pivot to some blip, I own a Speciale, nothing you spout matters as it has no relevance to reality,
I won't respond to the rest of the nonsense, but since this is an irrefutable fact I will enlighten you: "Lee went on to explain that when development started on the project back in 2014, the team was most interested in what made Maranello’s engines tick. “We wanted a Ferrari 458 engine, to take a look at their components and see what they did,” he specified. However, straight-up buying a 458 only to extract its engine apparently wasn’t on the table that early in the development process. As a result, a more reasonable source for a test motor had to be found. “We were able to buy a wrecked car engine from Poland on Ebay,” Lee explained. “We sent them a check for something like $25,000, and we were all pretty pleased and thrilled that the engine actually did show up.” https://www.thedrive.com/news/44539/chevy-corvette-z06-engineers-bought-a-ferrari-458-engine-on-ebay-to-learn-its-secrets PS: If you want to get into an argument, you should at least read a bit about the subject at hand...
That's not reverse engineering, you originally said they bought a 458 and I corrected you. Nice pivot You then google post an article that was a known fact - GM had been working and designing a rear engine Corvette - well before they bought the engine - it's typical for factories to do this, Ford had a warehouse of cars some prototypes add Ferrari's Aston Jaguar. Imagine that reason - Ford had a few Ferrari's to develop their GT - they were torn apart. Fast forward came the Ford GT at 150k in 2005 10% less then the price of 430 - Ford GT now sells at 4-500k what's the 430 sell for - 1/3 of the Ford GT. R&D is not cheap, but the results speak for themselves. Vette rear engines are killing the competition as did Fords. Fast forward - again Ford GT msrp 500k sells for double msrp around 1m. History tends to repeat itself - you can't debate any of this - give it a rest. Ferrari is a great company my only complain is - they are lazy and concentrated on electric as did others, if you don't think Ferrar has bought a few other cars to engineer - you are sadly mistaken. The electric efforts all the factories spent R&D on has not worked out well. ZR1 proved it! the end.
Anyway, back to the Speciale. Has anyone seen an updated price list for the option prices in the last week or so? My dealer hasn't seen them, and the configurator seems to be updating with options every other day. Really interested in what CF comes as standard. Thanks in advance!
Exactly, and that’s why, after a few years, the Speciale will likely end up selling below the list price, just like the regular production 296 IMO
It's not that it won't be an all time great Ferrari, but they're not going to leave any money on the table. They'll be insanely expensive. And the pricing is another way to protect 296 values from further free fall. Make it so much that current owners are like, geez, I'll guess I'll keep my 296 or potential secondary buyers are like, geez, I guess $350k is pretty good.
I'm guessing ~$600k for a good spec. Beyond that, you're probably spending your kids' inheritance. Last question: What do you think about Blu Roma? Image Unavailable, Please Login
No numbers and that looks incredible. I can't see how that's not closer to $650k though, but perhaps I'm wrong and obviously depends on the exterior carbon. Blu Roma is very good looking.
With that logic it should also protect the SF90 prices - and there's no sign of that (the SF90XX did not make any good to the used SF90 market, either).
