Ferrari F80

IMO, the prettiest car there.

But I'm not knocking the F80. It looks exactly like what they were trying to do -- take a Le Mans car and adapt it for the street. It looks like someone dropped a new body on top of something that could win Le Mans tomorrow. And that's a really good thing. The entire idea is "just plain nuts" and the look reflects that. Its not pretty and wasn't intended to be. I can say that about a lot of cars today.

I'm warming up to it not because of its looks but because of its outrageousness and honesty of purpose. Sometimes something new is shocking to the senses. Over time, it looks different.

The Maserati Gt2 is a step backwards. They erased everything good about the styling, which was its purpose. The ONLY reason you would want one of these is because its good looking -- or was.


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I have not made any reference to a conspiracy, only to major financial interests that link Lewis Hamilton to Ferrari and to its main shareholder.
Regarding the ZR1, I have already seen a test drive carried out by Car and Driver, which is quite detailed, and I therefore recommend you read it.
When the F80, already in its final version, was shown last year at Ferrari's Finali Mondiali event at the Imola racetrack, from the descriptions made here on Ferrarichat by some of those who have been there in person and from the various videos that were recorded, it is possible to make an assessment of how the car sounds compared to other Ferrari models. The various videos made since then, in which various prototypes of the F80 appear driving around the Maranello area, do not indicate that anything has substantially changed in terms of sound in relation to the Imola’s car.
In the video with L.H. and Charles Leclerc, and due to the constant background music, it is impossible to evaluate how the F80 really sounds like. I’ve watched this video again and the words “sexy sound” that I swore had been uttered by L.H. were actually said not by him but by C.L. and so my apologies to L.H.
Leclerc, who also owns several Ferraris, including an SP3 and an 812 C, knows perfectly well what is and what is not a sexy Ferrari sound. Although patience is not one of my virtues, fairness is and so I will give C.L. words the benefit of the doubt.

 

The possibility that LH actually liked the sound doesn't cross anyone's mind? Anyway, the sound is the least important. The fact that he said that it was the fastest road car he has even been in is much more important!!!

 

Sorry, I should have been more clear, I was referring to the ZR1X which has launched but not tested, and the same for the W1. The F80 that was at the Finali Mondiali, which was the car that was shared with us at the launch at the factory, is pre-production, as told to me by Ferrari themselves with still changes to come.

I was told there will be two exhaust systems for various regions in the world, I do not know if the pre-production car (used in the F1 drivers video) has been changed/modified as they are still work out the final details of the F80. When the same car was featured at Cavallino the handlers were told not to start the car and it was pushed every where it went, the same happened in the Time Square photoshoot, interesting.

Not to be argumentative, just wanted to be more clear

 

I mean he is paid to say that. I still remember Schumacher saying his daily driver was a Fiat Bravo.

 

Since liking a sound is subjective, it can not be proven that he did not actually mean what he said. The 296 sounds pretty nice, so why wouldn't the F80? Of course everyone will have to wait and hear it with their own ears and make up their minds. The quantifiable qualities of the car though (i.e. performance) are irrefutable and both F1 drivers were amazed by those.

 

You think it actually looks better in NYC Taxi Cab Yellow?

 

Do you know which regions will get which exhaust? That’s very interesting, I’ve not heard of the different exhausts for different markets.

 

I actually do not like yellow cars, but I think this particular car in this light shows better then the original launch car. I am not a fan of Rosso Supercar, looks like all the Toyota crossovers from the early 2000's that I see on the road. I think if they were to come out with a color that is so bold to be called Ferrari supercar red, it needed to be a radicicolous version of red. I think Rosso Magma blows Rosso Supercar out of the water.

 

I was told on good authority this will be the case and this is the reason the car was not started when we were in Cavallino. They stated one version for the US and one for the EU, but I'm sure if they are going to go through this effort they will sell each version where regulations allow/do not allow certain decibels. Sorry, this is all the information I have.

 

If they do it on the F80 they might do it for other models, it would be a welcome change!

 

Limited edition of limited edition.

 

still more exciting than F80

 

1620hp 1390kg + loads of downforce and spaceship wild looks yet has lifters, ac, electric seats, stereo
nothing not to like really, interested to see what the lap times will be in comparison to the f80, valk, amg one, Praga, the 2110hp Rimac R and new mclaren
obviously the McMurtry destroys them all in performance but they haven't released their road version yet.

it's very competitive at the top for hypercars

 

I my self very unlikely will allow something to fly by because someone will catch up to it BUT! To the date nobody is speaking about the fact the the F80 is the first Ferrari in history that (being main production not variants) does not have the Chrome Cavallino Badge ANYWHERE! Folks told me is because of the pre-production phase but no proof of the badge being present in testing has been seen, I double dare check check check WONT FIND IT.

I don't know but this is a loss of heritage for one of the grail and I dont care if I go to a crash car dumpster and take one off a totaled SF90, that is part of Ferrari bloodline not acceptable. If anyone else has noticed, kudos to you.

 

Koenigsegg Jesko is best sounding turbo ever

 

One can only speak for themselves...

With the caveat of having to use E85 fuel to achieve that number. Around 1300 HP using petrol.

 

The first all-electric Ferrari will be unveiled later this year and there are strong suspicions that it will be The Great Pretender. There are still no certainties regarding the fake exhaust tips but everything points to it having a sound system that reproduces what resembles the growl of a powerful non-turbo ICE. It is also very possible that the Elettrico will incorporate virtual gear shifts similar to the ones found in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 N.
Have you ever thought about what would happen if the fake sound of the Elettrico was so good and loud that it surpassed the muffled sound of the F80 and some of the other hybrid Ferraris?

 

The F40 didn´t have chrome horse either, and I suppose there were others I can´t remember. Not a big issue.

 

The F80 has all the same creature comforts as the new Koenigsegg so not sure why this is such an important point, so do many other hypercars. Yes, lets see when testing finally happens. But lets also remember Ferrari makes cars that will run, all my friends with Koenigsegg's have their cars in service, or still waiting for them to be produced. The F80 will be delivered on time and run, and most likely run without issue.

 

SF90 XX also lacks the chrome horse

 

The hypothesis that the F80s supplied in the EU and the US have alternative stock exhaust systems was mentioned here.

Let's take a look at the EU and US regulations regarding CO2 emissions. The European legislation 2025-2029 has a target for new passenger cars of 93.6 g/Km, however for the period 2030-2034 the target is 49.5 g/Km. In the US EPA's proposed target for new passenger cars is 161 g/mile (100 g/Km) by 2026 but it will drop to 85 g/mile (52.8 g/Km) in 2032, a nearly 50% reduction from the 2026. This means that by 2032 there will be a convergence in terms of CO2 emissions between the EU and the US and after this date they will be very similar. Regarding decibels, the current Ferrari models sold in the EU are designed to meet 72 db noise limit which will decrease to 68db from 2026 while in the US most states enforce a limit of 85db.

From the above, it seems to me that the simplest future alternative if F80 owners wish to change its muted sound will be to install a valve opening and closing system in the exhaust which, when opened, will make it a lot louder. However, whatever will be done to the F80 exhaust system, it will never sound like the 296 which has a wider firing interval (time between each cylinder firing) resulting in a more pronounced and aggressive exhaust note particularly at higher RPMs.

 

Mario, could you please elaborate on this??

Thanks!

 

speaking of lap times this is a crazy one, especially considering the estimated price of it being around 110k usd for the nurburgring edition