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  1. Longstone Tyres

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    Hi

    Regardless of which side of the fence you are on, non of us like to miss an opportunity. And non of us like to pay more than we have to.

    We don't know if or what tariffs are going to be put onto car parts being shipped into the States, we don't actually know weather tyres will be included in the car parts tariff?

    However what we do know is that we would feel like a nincompoop if we decided we wanted to buy some tyres after a hefty tariff had been applied.

    Can i suggest if you might be thinking of buying some tyres for a TestaRossa within the next few months, you get on with it now before you miss the boat.

    https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/classic-car-tyres/ferrari/testarossa.html

    I have got loads of stock, but it might be a tyre i need to get in for you, so sooner rather than later would make it a safer bet.
     
  2. 66MK

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    Hi, have you got any 280/45/415 rears? I'm in the UK and have a set of custom 18" on but I have the original 415's with 1994 tyres and am considering rebooting them!
     
  3. Longstone Tyres

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    Hi

    I'm sorry but that tyre has become obsolete.

    Michelin have been fantastic in maintaining their range of weird and wonderful odd tyre sizes to support cars like this, however that tyre i'm afraid has bit the bullet, because for years people were swapping onto 16" wheels, the knock on effect was that the demand for this tyre was incredibly small. I think it only fits the rear of the TestaRossa for a few, i don't know of another aplication, and most of them have changed wheels. so sorry it is finished.

    18" wheels is a bit too dramatic, that will diminish the levels of absorbtion of the bumps of the road. I would encourage you to go back to 16" wheels. your suspension isnt as clever as the modern cars that fit 18" wheels. It isnt just the comfort that is at issue, that comfort protects your car. and extra inch of side wall height really means something when you get that low.

    I beleive these are currently the best.

    https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/225-50yr16-255-50yr16-pirelli-p-zero.html

    unless any one disputes that and prefers the Michelin Pilot Sport

    https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/michelin-classic-tyres/pilot-sport.html

    the truth is they are both great tyres.
     
  4. 2dinos

    2dinos F1 Rookie

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    What is status on Tariffs from UK to US now? I've heard on, then off etc.

    I just bought a car cover from the UK. Before DHL would deliver, I had to pay. I was told cover originated from China. Not sure who this helps exactly??:(

    Oh well, I like the cover.

    Anyway, tires are made in a few different countries. I guess this is what determines the tariff?
     
  5. Longstone Tyres

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    Hi

    We dont use DHL to ship to the States, and i beleive that tyres we are shipping in are mostly not being stopped by customs at all and getting through to our customers tariff free. I beleive this is not something we can garuntee, however there should always be a tariff on tyres being shipped in, but historically it was very small and insignificant, however, maybe because of the way we word our invoice they historically weren't getting charged, and i beleive the situation is still the same, and retail customers are not getting charged.

    if anyone has a contrary experience with our shipping please piost and let people know.
     
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  6. Ricambi America

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  7. samsaprunoff

    samsaprunoff F1 Rookie
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    Good day Dougal,

    I cannot comment on US importation, but importation into Canada will see the Canadian GST (5%) applied. Since these tires are used on vintage cars, it is important to include the statement of 'Vintage Auto Parts - Parts for a vehicle over 25 years of age", as this will (mostly) ensure that Canadian recipients are not charged an importation Duty fee, only GST. If the Canadian recipient is incorrectly assessed a Duty fee, then one can restate the "Vintage auto parts" statement and provide evidence that the auto is over 25 years old. This is what I had to do whn I last ordered tires from you... and 2-3 weeks later, I received a Duty refund.

    Lastly, final delivery within Canada was been via Canada Post... and not a commercial courier.

    Cheers,

    Sam
     
  8. turbo-joe

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    what please is GST?
     
  9. samsaprunoff

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    Good day Romano,

    GST is Canada's National Tax called the "Goods and Services Tax" which is 5%, but is not charged on basic necessity items like food, etc. It is sort of like a Sales Tax. Overall it is very similar to Europe's VAT.

    Cheers,

    Sam
     
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  10. Longstone Tyres

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    Hi

    Yes we do put a similar line on our invoices and paper work. We also apply a comodity code. Which is why people tend not to get tariffed in the Staes and Canada.

    We also did use the post office until recently. However my understanding is that Canadian Post office have gone on strike, so we moved our Canadian parcels to DHL and i beleive they have now gone on strike. Happy days.

    However i do think most of our Cnadian customers dont get stopped at all, but if you are only paying 5% i'd be very happy. In the UK we have to charge all our customer and the EU 20% VAT! so 5% is good.

    Incidentally if you aere outside the EU then if you see a VAT on the price of our web site that will be taken off as you go through the buying process and clarify what country the tyres are coming to.
     
  11. turbo-joe

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    thank you for your statement sam

    always great what I can learn here at ferrarichat :)
     
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  12. samsaprunoff

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    Good day Dougal,

    Just a few items.... Canada post is not (currently) on Strike. They did a while back and there are rumblings that they might do it again if arbitration between management and workers cannot reach an agreement. Canada Post used be to 100% private...many years ago... and then things went sideways so that the Canadian Gov brought it back under their wing. Now, it is a quasi Gov company. The issue is revenue versus worker's pay. However, there seems to be no shortage of $ to pay the executives big bucks, but not so much for the workers and/or their working conditions (e.g. delivery trucks have no A/C or other things, which are somewhat needed these days given the extreme weather we see). Like most things, there is a balance to be made... but both sides tend to be singularly focused.

    As for Canada Post's collection of GST... If the shipment's value is over $200 (if I remember), then it is an almost guarantee that GST and potentially an importation Duty will be applied. I ship regularly (in/out bound) and maybe... maybe 1 out of 300 or so shipments, Canada Post neglects to charge/collect GST, etc. For smaller or low value shipments, most will go through... as the taxes collected would not cover the effort/paperwork for the tax assessment.

    As for DHL... yup... on strike, but I think it will get sorted pretty quick. That said, I can almost guarantee you that DHL will collect any taxes owing,. as they and every other private courier company is required by law to do so...and could see some pretty significant consequences if they do not,. Also, DHL charges about 2x what Canada Post charges for their "processing" fee + can add incremental charges. However, the processing fee can be relatively modest (< $20) and so is not a major factor. UPS is by far the absolute worst for adding numerous nickel and dime fees. UPS's fee is not always a fixed cost unlike DHL, Fed Ex, etc... but can be a percentage of the shipment's value. It all depends upon the UPS shipping option (e.g. UPS Ground, UPS Overnight, 2nd day, etc). Lots of details to consider for a Canadian shipping recipient.

    Cheers,

    Sam
     
  13. Longstone Tyres

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    We are back with the post office now. I think its more likely to get duty on it if it is shipped to a commercial address private addresses seem to be treated a bit more casually.

    And we do think that Canada is mor vigilant than the US.
     
  14. DonB

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    I talked to the lady who is in charge of Michelin Classic tires, like the TRX..If you plan to buy from Longstone, be sure the trie/s you buy have the US DOT code and not the European (?) one. She said Customs will keep the tires if they don't have the correct markings.
    And don't shoot the messenger, I'm only relaying what she said some of their customers have experienced.
     
  15. Longstone Tyres

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    Hi DonB.

    I won't shoot the messenger, but it is an odd thing for her to say, because the TRX tyres you were talking to her about are DOT marked. There is no difference between the EU TRX tyres and the ones sent to the US. When i walked down the shed now to look at our stock, next to the DOT mark our stock also has a number on there telling us they were manufactured in 2025.

    I think what she is talking about is the Michelin TB range of rally tyres that are not DOT marked, and the difference between our European tyres and the ones in the States is that the American TB tyres have 'for competition purpose only' stamped into the side wall.

    However this is all irrenlavent to our 220/55VR390 TRX. you can buy them from us here

    https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/220-55wr390-michelin-trx.html

    and you wont get fresher tyres
     
  16. DonB

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    OK.
     

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