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Another book which is quite new and where it is also quite impossible to find more informations:

Ferrari 1947-1972 - Bodas De Prata - 25 Anos De Gloria (Fotobiografia) by Joao Carmo Santos (in Portuguese)


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Thanks Gert.

Yes, a bit amateurish at best photo wise.

I think I'll just stick with my Veloce Publishing efforts.

 

Jens to answer your question the de Tomaso book is graphically very nice, I see nothing questionable, what matters to me are the countless never seen archive photos and well researched and written text, charts, which truly document dT history like never before.

Highly recommended, it merits being described as the definitive dT book.

I have to say that I was happy that it has only ten pages on the Mangusta so that when my publisher Doug Blair of Eau Rouge Publishing gets around to doing layout and printing of our Mangusta book, finished several years ago with 100000 + words, we will bring a lot of new information and archive (as well as new) photos to readers.

It was Doug who gifted me this De tomaso racing blue blood copy so merci Mon ami.

 

Hi Marc, THANK YOU very much! Sven

 

One for the bin!

 

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It's time to get started! The crowdfunding campaign won't begin until 1 September, but the book's information page is already available on Kickstarter, where you can sign up to stay informed. After all, you wouldn't want to miss out on the chance to purchase copy #001, would you? ;-)

I need 250 orders to start printing, but I'm hoping for more, of course... Please feel free to spread the word, I'd really appreciate it!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thespottingguide/the-ferrari-250-gto-spotting-guide

 

Good luck with the crowdfunding! I registered for notifications.

 

I signed up for notifications too! I'm new to this process. Once you get the required number of customers, do you have any idea of printing timeframes and shipping?
It looks really interesting. Good luck and here's to a quick and large signup.

 

I must say that this is all new to me too. What I understand is that once the funding is complete and if it reaches the target (250 orders in my case), you have to wait 15 days to receive the funds – the time it takes for the system to collect the money from everyone who participated. That will take us to 1 November.
Fifteen days is also more or less the time it takes for the book to be printed, plus a week for me to receive them (the printing will be done in Belgium, I am based near Paris, and I will be using the garage of a friend who specialises in buying and reselling BMW youngtimers in Champagne for storage...). Then we need time to pack the few hundred books, for DHL to pick them up and deliver them to your door. I think it's likely that they'll be ready in time to arrive under the Christmas tree.

Doing everything yourself is exciting, but also a little scary at times. But now the hardest part will be finding 250 customers between now and mid-October. I have a few contacts who can help me in the media, but I'm also counting on word of mouth. That's where I'm counting on you

(I am also setting up a website dedicated to the book, which will be easier to share than the Kickstarter page.)

 

Glad you're setting up a website, i'd be more comfortable registering my interest there.

And just to clarify, I can still buy a copy without participating in the crowdfunding after the publication has been released (however possibly at a higher price) ?

 

I use crowdfunding as a pre-order system because it's much simpler than managing orders one by one, but also because I don't have the budget to finance printing (let alone take that financial risk). It's therefore important to have as many pre-sales as possible to guarantee that the right number of books will be printed.
I won't print less than 250 orders because it doesn't make economic sense, and there will inevitably be more copies printed than pre-orders (I plan to print 500 books if I get 250 pre-orders, for example), but I'd like to keep stock as low as possible.
This is a small business started by one person in a small flat, so I won't have the space to keep hundreds of books in stock, nor the time to ship individual orders for months on end. The idea is therefore to get as many pre-orders as possible so that I can send as many books as possible to DHL in one go. And if it works, start writing a second book rather than having to manage orders on a daily basis.

So, to answer your question: yes, it will still be possible to buy books later, but we first need to sell 250 copies in advance.
The price will not change in the future, but they will only be available for direct sale on the website – the percentage charged by booksellers makes this the only viable option.
And to give you all the details: the book will still be available for purchase on Kickstarter once the campaign is complete and the first 250 copies have been sold. It will be closed before printing.

The biggest question is really how many I will be able to sell, and here again, crowdfunding helps reduce the risk by providing a projection.
The first 250 copies printed are the most expensive. The unit manufacturing costs then drop very quickly...

 

Might have missed it on the site but I don't see the price?

 

Hello

I'm also registered

 

https://bartkuykens.com/collections/books/products/prancing-horses-pre-order
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This popped up in my mail. I have most of his porsche books.

 

Overpriced pseudo-art photo's.

 

Have you contacted the usual suppliers of motoring books like Hortons, Chaters, Motors Mania, Libreria dell'automobile etc., Gilena who might be interested in stocking multiple copies, although they would, of course, need a margin for their profit?

 

Yes and... no... The usual margin for booksellers is 40% of the retail price. For a small print run where the printing costs are high, that's basically working for free. I don't intend to get rich from this book, but the work does have a cost ;-)

 

Still don't see the price?

 

Bart has his style to shoot, small run of prints and in my eyes your comment is harsh and rude…

But i‘m sure you are such a great shooter by yourself and can help me with the unserstanding
why it‘s „pseudo-art“ especially in this case when the shooter didn‘t see it as art by himself and only
wants to shoot people and their cars in his way.

 

I don’t think the price will be determined until the crowdfunding is activated.

 

When Doug Nye says that 90% of books on Ferrari are a criminal waste of trees, is he harsh and rude towards the authors he addresses?
Harsh would have been when I would have said that Bart's work is garbage.
Moreover, I never said that I am a better snapper than him, did I?
I gave my opinion, with which anyone can agree or disagree.
So, enjoy the weekend.

 

Why is it „pseudo-art“ in your eyes?

In my opionion everyone can like or dislike something,
nothing is made for all and a lot of things getting hard critics the right way.

But „pseudo-art“ is a hard critic which isn‘t just personal taste, it‘s judgmental
and i would like to read, why?

Doug is a professional and top author, and i get his critic in general.

 

If the shooter doesn't see it as art what's the point of these books? There are absolute no relevant informations in these books.

 

From the 'shooter's' website:
Kuykens' work has gained international recognition, with exhibitions in cities like Los Angeles, London, Paris, Zurich, Oslo, Palm Springs and Miami. His collaborations with brands such as Vitra, Porsche, Chopard, Leica, Artek and Hasselblad further establish his influence in both the art and commercial worlds. Yet, his art remains deeply personal—a lifelong commitment where every photograph tells a story, and each series surpasses the last.

So he considers his work as art, which is fine. For me it's just a collection of photo's that do not appeal to me. I call it pseudo-art. Time will tell if it's that or real art.

 

I only mean that he didn‘t have the attitude to shout out „i‘m an artist“, that photography is a kind of art
everyone knows, so please don‘t mix up my post to question his book, thanks.

But my mistake from beginning,
i shouldn't have responded to Mick's posting.