The Hamilton at FERRARI Era

literally no one gives a flying F about the popularity. The only one that does is Lewis (because he's hired management specifically aimed at managing fame rather than racing drivers) and his fan club. Being famous is massively overrated.

 

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That’s because Max does not give a **** if he is famous or not. Lewis cares about his image and what others think of him.

 

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Since F1 isn't a popularity contest, the true F1 aficionados are only interested in racing, I would think.
Success is earned on the track, not faked on social media.

 

Why are you(CRG125) stressing that Max thread has been around longer using that as clout, but then turn around and say Max doesn't care about that stuff?
Why bring it up?
Max doesn't care? Lol I knew you all was gonna use that lame excuse anyway lol. Max will never be the global force that Sir Lewis Hamilton is. Because he is not as interesting. Has nothing to do with if he cares or not. Some people just don't got it.

 

Some drivers are more interesting or has something that people gravitate to. They automatically become more popular, with out it being a contest. It just happens. We as fans don't control that. I didn't watch Hunt or Lauda. But nobody said popularity was a bad thing when they were.

 

Sir LuLu is what I call a Mult-Purpose Celebrity. He'll have plenty to do when his racing career ends (surely within a year or two?).

Other examples are J'Lo, Selena Gomez, Meghan Markel, etc, Basically anyone who uses their celebrity as a way to launch and steer merchandising empires and has fans that just want to "be close" to them somehow. Worship of anything with their hero's "brand" attached to it.

It's silly, but some people are willing to pay for it. Even Ferrari CEOs.

 

Sonny Hayes(Brad Pitt) in the movie F1 kept getting into Pearce's face about all the media attention that Pearce was "trying" to attract TO INCLUDE Pearce's own publicist. Hayes kept telling Pearce "They don't care!" Ironic that Pearce is akin to Hamilton (which is what I got out of Pearce).

Hayes character when it came to the journo's and media reminded me of Raikkonen, Hakkinen, Verstappen(Max), Alonso, Alesi, Jackie Stewart, and many others that don't crave the media attention....which is their choice.

Alonso has his own museum and his own karting school to be more impactful to those that want to join F1. He's participated in LeMans and in IndyCar....so in essence his life revolves around motorsport.

I'm sure IF Schumacher was able, he too would have his own museum and possibly his own karting school but that's hypothetical.

Lewis wants to get all the attention he can and be more impactful outside of F1, GREAT!!! as that's his choice. Fashion design? Go for it as he wants to be seen at the Gala with the so-called "who's-who's" (or not) of fashion. BTW, do you follow the fashion scene? I certainly don't and really could care less. His Mission44 project? Hey, it takes money to get into F1 so this "inclusion" and "equity" mumbo-jumbo is just not going to work. Parents are spending boatloads of money for their 5yo to get into karting and POSSIBLY make it into F1. That's the honest to God truth.

All I can say is, more power to him. Good Luck!

 

Its not about wanting attention, it takes more than that. You actually have to be interesting. Ryan Reynolds can do all he can to get media attention. He can work 24/7. Still Pitt will get more media coverage than him. They just gravitate to him more. A nerd could work nonstop to gain more women than the next guy. If he doesn't have natural charm or skills to be a social butterfly, he won't get as many women.
Sir Lewis Hamilton doesn't make media surround him, or us talk about him. It happens anyway.

 

Lewis: Employs an agency specifically to boost his global celebrity. Lewis goes to celebrity events all the time to boost his image.
Max: enters events under fake names to hide his celebrity. Max despite having a fashion model girlfriend actively avoids these events and prefers to test different race cars. Don't know what else you need to show that he's not seeking celebrity.

One chases it, the other one hides. The only one using celebrity as clout is YOU; but then attempt to turn it around in a pathetic attempt in some sort of weird gotcha moment.

 

For a genuine F1 follower, Max Verstappen is very interesting; he does his talking on the track, not on the catwalk !

 

I agree that people gravitate to a drivers or athletes. However you seem to treat it like a contest because you often bring up how popular Lewis Hamilton is. There are dozens of reasons why a driver can become popular outside of being "interesting".

#1 is people like to root for a winner. When Lewis was winning more than half the races, new fans are naturally going to claim him as their favorite. This isn't any different than when Senna or Schumacher or Verstappen was winning all the time.

Of course which team they drive for makes a difference. Ferrari drivers gain popularity just by driving for Ferrari.

It's not uncommon for drivers to gain popularity just from where they are born. Senna is perhaps the biggest example. Even Tsunoda has popularity with the Japanese and Zhou with the Chinese. Don't even get started with Perez and the Mexican fanbase. The Brits glorifying the Brits too.

Even though nobody wants to talk about it, but one can gain popularity because of their race. Lewis Hamilton has attracted a massive fanbase because of the color of his skin.

Does any of this matter? No. Drivers with the most instagram followers shouldn't matter to because you are correct, it isn't a contest. Where it becomes a topic of conversation is when the drivers seem to think it matters. Max clearly couldn't care less. Lewis on the other hand seems to thrive on the popularity.

 

He goes to "celebrity events" LOL man your trying too hard. He is already a celebrity, he doesn't have to seek anything. Lol If he is at an event, its an event he is envolved in or has genuine interest. Give me proof that Fchat, Autosport, Planet F1 etc. are all hired to talk about Sir Lewis Hamilton. Give me proof that the media at the races are hired by him. Give me proof that the thousands of fans at the Ferrari factory were hired by him to be there. Give me proof that he is paying you for the time you are spending right now talking about him.
You still refuse to understand what I'm saying. Even if Max did all the things Sir Lewis Hamilton does, he still wouldn't get as much media. Both drivers can take the month off, not got to any events, stay at home. Sir Lewis Hamilton will still get more press. Sir Lewis Hamilton has many talents and interest, a vibrant life outside of racing, and for many that's more fulfilling. Max has no life outside of racing. There's nothing wrong with that, you shouldn't be so combative about it. You mention Max avoids events and is discrete, that is good. Max's personality is not likeable, he would do terrible at most social events. He is not as flexible in that space.

 

I'm an genuine F1 follower. All drivers do their talking on the track. You will know if they are talking other places if you watch it. I mostly watch the racing.

 

Don't be fooled. Max has a demand to be accepted as everyone else. Its not realistic to say Max does not care about media, no fans, how he is portrayed, popularity etc. Remember when he said "anybody can win in the Merc" essentaily saying he would be winning if he was there. Also the media outburst. Don't be fooled, he is not a robot.

 

I don't think you quite understand this (or anything, for that matter). Lewis consciously got XIX entertainment to manage him many years ago, with the GOAL of managing his celebrity status. Do you comprehend the concept of time and job well done? Yes? Well there you have it. XIX did their job well, therefore Lewis hasa become a carefully managed celebrity.

Glad we got that sorted.

Enjoy your Hamilwank for the rest of the day.

 

I'm not sure if you comprehended my request. Lets try again. Give me proof that Fchat, Autosport, Planet F1 etc. are all hired to talk about Sir Lewis Hamilton. Give me proof that the media at the races are hired by him. Give me proof that the thousands of fans at the Ferrari factory were hired by him to be there. Give me proof that he is paying you for the time you are spending right now talking about him.

 

I really don't want to insult you because I refuse to believe that anyone that hasn't been diagnosed with significant developmental delays is actually writing all of that and serious about it.

But here we go:

Reason why media etc are all writing about him because he's a successful F1 driver AND because of the associated management. It's their literal job. They also write about failures like Lance.
There is no proof that anyone on forums is paid to write about him, with the exception of you but I don't have access to your or your guardians bank account so can't prove it. Nor do I believe that Lewis or his management would let anyone write like this and think it comes off as positive.
No one said the Ferrari fans there where hired by him. Tifosi show up anyways, and there are plenty that don't actively care who the driver is for Ferrari, so long he drives for Ferrari he might as well be holy.

 

You can't insult the truth.
And he is the ambassader of the sport, along with off track accomplishments. As I said, he doesn't make the media cover him. He just holds the most interest at the moment.

 

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Max has no life outside of racing? He has a family that he likes to spend time with rather then to attend events such as the MET GALA or other celebrity events. Max also has a ton of friends that he rather hang out with outside of the track. He is a family man. Who does Lewis have outside of the track? Oh yeah he doesn't, because he is so into himself and always concerned to show up at some event, movie premiers, music shows and etc. FYI, if you know anything about entertainment, every celebrity has a team behind them booking them at events, talk shows, award shows and any type of event where they are being promoted. Hell they even have their own photographers following them everywhere.

 

You only care about what celebrity event Lewis will show up too.

 

Exactly is.

No point arguing with cultists though.

 

Wrong ! I like that aspect of Max' personality, because like him, I am no fan of social events either.
Some people crave for attention, others are more reserved.

 

As someone just correctly said, Max does his talking on the track. EVERY weekend.

 

To each is own. No wrong or right way. Some drivers are mor flexible, comfortable at a social event and to themselves.