360 Gear light blinking and F1 transmission ligh on

Hi there
360 - 2004 Spyder F1 transmission - European

Car doesnt start and gear stays in N and blinks and beeps 3 times along with F1 transmission light on.
I know the clutch was coming to an end but can still driving perfectly on the day before.
Now its parked in my garage and paddles dont shift and car doesnt start.
With the key fob i open the car and the first prime sound checks and one i ge the key on ignition theres also a second or third sound of priming the f1 oil pump.
I checked the F1 pump resevoir and its like 3 or 4 milimiters filled from bottom, i think its not air in the f1 circuit..
So at this point what and how should i check next?

Thanks guys

 

Almost everyone will ask if you have a tool to check for any codes, so that's first. But the very immediate thing I would assume is check to see if your brake lights are on with the brake pedal, or if any of the lights are out at all. If I remember correctly, if the vehicle doesn't recognize the brake pedal is depressed, or if the bulb(s) themselves are burnt out, it would cause an f1 light and potentially cause a no start.

If it's anything after this, the gurus here will have to take over

 

Thanks you, i appreciate. But no lights missing nor burned ,só i think its has to do either a faulty relay or F1 pump.Any ideas anyone.
Btw i cont have a tool to check through obd

 

Where are you located ?
Not much on your profile

 

Im located in Portugal, Europe

 

Since you don't have a tool .. please consider getting this and I think we can help you better

https://a.co/d/avtPbYa

 

Amazon doesnt deliver this product in Portugal
Is there any other alike item i can use that serves the same purpose ?

Does this one serves the purpose ?

Autel MaxiAP AP2500

 

Can you find the ap200 that is white and gray in color where you are?

 

If you can't find that what about a thinkdiag2

 

aparently Autel 2500 has everything in it:

Autel MaxiAP AP2500 updated AP200/AP200C/AP200H/AP200M Bluetooth OBD2

https://www.amazon.com/-/es/actualizado-Bluetooth-autom%C3%A1tico-herramienta-autom%C3%B3viles/dp/B0CWNKXDDS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=CX0KBGZJFQG1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.xaJdwpNHbugTQefqYlmthlJl6ez-vyeUiM2U0KOAQNa99puRaKJp7kpFcOembXWR0fhWoRbQTNdUXR28IpTS6Vw_plv1OBGJyLw5PEGQ-WLYQDYvKt4Lgbd_xJOzOhM81GDiEbjOeV2N0v717MipkjYA7kdux0myxoBut8G9pvT4QpF7Lw_zMtNLfPaPdT0UrxtPfXVCsd-OlP2mmcs_K8ZsusOe0vQBAESVJC9FbF-AK_d2hU4XUgdi_1WlW76iK0pUJkXltTShKMvPHoeloEOXOevMSZ_gfUOuuONv1II.KxagOpUMJSWGSDrJOxMdLi7i22A5fYYXbUsJMSLmi2E&dib_tag=se&keywords=autel+ap200&qid=1757431796&sprefix=autel+ap200%2Caps%2C316&sr=8-1

 

Unfortunately it doesn't ...

Either try to find the older Ap200 that is gray and white or get a thinkdiag2

 

diagstore.cz sells various products (Autel, Launch) in Europe. I bought a Launch from them, price and shipping time were reasonable.

Perhaps you can contact them whether they ship to Portugal.

 

I am doing that. Regardless, any other though of what may be the cause both these lights turn on ? I was just returning from a 60 miles ride , parked it in the garage and on the next morning it doest even start
I know these cars are somehow temperamental but im still surprised.

 

NO point in guessing .. need tool to see error codes and some other parameters and then make proper diag
It could clutch position sensor but again it is a guess ... need to get the tool
Can you buy thinkdiag2 ?

 

yes this one thinkdiag2 , amazon delivers it to me in 10 days.
Im purchasing it.I will be back here with resutls hopefuly you guys can help me reading it out.
Thanks again

 

I will be more than happy to help throughout the process ..just get it connected and send me a PM to setup a WhatsApp call

 

I ordered thinkdiag2 and im just waiting for it in the mail box.
Although i manage to get it fixed in the meantime ( not for long i know ).
Im not running the car yet though.
The f1 gearbox resevoir is nearly empty way below min.This is after f1 priming.
So i want to fill it at levels with oil.
On the manual it shows Shell Donax TX as the F1 system oil and there is another 75W90 shell oil for gearbox and transmission...

So just wanted make sure , im looking for the F1 oil kind correct ?
Sorry guys i dont want to mess up on this one.

 

The F1 system uses ATF DEX III ( donax tx or spirax s4 atf) unless someone changed it along the way - just make sure it is red in color
It should measure 6 mm from bottom plate immediately after a key on prime ( not only door open) or any subsequent prime after key on
Not sure what you mean you fixed it ??

 

I meant, somehow i touched the paddles and reverse a couple of times and the clutch was able to move to neutral and " N " display is no longer beeping and blinking. So somehow the F1 oil circuit got enough pressure to work .
I wonder if this oil level has to do with a worn clutch / which i know mine is ).
Like it seems thee isnt 6mm oil from bottom after all primes engaged before engine start.
So thats why i was thinking to add some f1 oil on the resevoir until it reaches 6mm from bottom.
Theres no oil leaking in the tray or anything so im assuming the oild level goes down as the clutch worns out.

 

Clutch wear doesn't affect oil level
Sometimes a bad accumulator drops the level one time

 

In fact it does a bit but, as clutch wears, it pushes back a little more fluid in the tank (reduced volume in throwout bearing).