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Shocking radar footage shows Hellfire missile fired by US military bounce off UFO over ocean

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  1. NYC Fred

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    The House Committee on Restoring Public Trust unveiled a shocking new video that shows a hulking US military weapon bounce off a UFO as it flew over the ocean.

    The wild footage shared by Rep. Eric Burlison (R-Mo.) during the disclosure hearing on Capitol Hill on Tuesday shows a Hellfire missile fired by a US military drone striking a glowing orb that flew off the coast of Yemen.

    The speeding object was paced by a 100-pound Hellfire air-to-ground round fired by an MQ-9 drone, which made contact and bounced right off, as shown in the radar footage from October 30, 2024.

    The footage came from a separate MQ-9 drone, which recorded the orb spinning after the missile made contact and continuing on its way, UFO expert George Knapp said at the hearing.




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    #2 EastMemphis, Sep 10, 2025
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    How silly. In our galactic neighborhood, we are the only advanced life forms. That is a fact you'll just have to live with. Our representatives are notoriously weak minded and will do anything for a sound or video bite. If you believe this nonsense, I have a bridge for a real deal in Brooklyn. Contact me for details.

    How can I be so confident in this conclusion?

    1. Light speed is a limitation that cannot be overcome. There is no warp drive. There are no artificial wormholes. If you want to go to another star, it's sublight and slow poking.

    2. The conditions required for advanced life forms are so complex and virtually impossible that it can be said with certainty that these conditions are so rare that it could be one solar system out of 1,000,000,000 might have the proper conditions.
    - The galactic neighborhood has to be quiet. A supernova within 50 light years can sterilize a planet with intense radiation.
    - A quiescent sun. Solar flares, CMEs, and other solar nastiness can disrupt the chain that leads to life and leave behind a sterile wasteland.
    - A "Goldilocks" orbit. A planet must reside in this zone where liquid water can exist. Look at planets like Eridani 48d. The planet sort of is in this zone, but the orbit is elliptical and passes inside and outside of the temperate zone. The weather on that planet, if there is any at all, would be chaotic and likely be another sterilizing event.
    - A large moon to stabilize the orbit. Look at Mars as an example. Mars tumbles in its orbit occasionally. The poles switch and the entire planet is thrown into chaos. Without a large, stabilizing moon, a planet will have an unstable tilt and will have weather that is dramatic and changes radically from eon to eon. Advanced life forms need stability to evolve. A chaotic planet might have microbes, but anything that leaves a slime trail will be extinct after the first planetary axis tumble.
    - A strong magnetic field. We exist because the collision with a planetoid eons ago recharged our planetary core. A planet without a liquid core will not have a strong magnetic field and the atmosphere will eventually be stripped of volatiles by the solar wind. This is what happened to Mars. A solid core, no strong magnetic field, virtually all the gasses have left the building.

    3. The Great Filter. This concept suggests life must pass a series of immense challenges. While we've likely already passed many (the jump to complex cells, intelligence, etc.), some of the most daunting may still be ahead:
    - Self-destruction. This is the most common candidate. Civilizations might inevitably destroy themselves once they develop sufficiently powerful technology, such as nuclear weapons, runaway AI, or engineered pandemics.
    - Resource Depletion/Ecological Collapse: A civilization might exhaust its planet's resources and trigger an irreversible environmental collapse before it can become truly interstellar.

    So if you're looking for the little green men, look no further than the scifi aisle in your local bookstore. That's where you'll find the real aliens and extrasolar invaders.

    Besides, if a hyper-advanced species really crossed the void to visit us, they'd surely have a better plan than just buzzing drones over the ocean. Let's be realistic: we wouldn't be seeing cryptic orbs, we'd be seeing the Ferengi on The Tonight Show trying to trade us worthless synthetics for our gold.

    Oh, if you're interested in narrative-driven, hard science fiction, check out my website: https://zens-world.com
     
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    oh man, you ruined it, I'm so disappointed :(
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    "We haven't figured the tech out, therefore it cannot exist" has always seemed like a weak argument to me.
     
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    #5 EastMemphis, Sep 10, 2025
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    My counter: Where are the Ferengi? Why is ET hiding? Where's the profit motive?

    Ask yourself. Why would any advanced civilization expend the enormous resources required to cross the void and visit our solar system only to stay hidden, except for the occasional anal probing or toying with a drone?

    Critical thought is a rare thing in humans. They are so gullible that they will believe just about anything that is impossible or improbable if told by a charismatic leader or it's something they want to believe. Weak minded fools, the lot.
     
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    soooo, you would have told Columbus to stay put? o_O :rolleyes: :D
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    Here's my counter argument to the Fermi paradox:

    The Coryat Postulate:
    God is a weak force that nudges improbable events toward probable.

    Here's the full paper.

    A Proposed Biasing Principle in Cosmological Evolution

    Author: John Coryat

    Abstract
    Current cosmological models, while robust, rely on pure stochasticity to explain a series of pivotal, low-probability events that led to our present universe. This paper proposes the existence of a hitherto unobserved fundamental principle, termed a "complexity operator" (designated g). This operator is posited not as a violation of known physical laws, but as a weak, non-sentient biasing force that subtly increases the probability of state transitions leading to greater local complexity and long-term systemic stability. This framework offers a potential resolution to several outstanding paradoxes, including baryon asymmetry, the improbability of abiogenesis, and the specific astro-physical configuration of the Sol-Terra-Luna system. A clear, falsifiable test is proposed: a statistical deviation from random chance in the observed frequency of Earth-like planetary systems featuring large, stabilizing moons.

    1. Introduction: The Problem of Improbability
    Our standard models of the universe are predicated on the assumption that its evolution is governed by a combination of deterministic laws and random quantum events. However, this framework struggles to account for a series of "anthropic coincidences"—events of such staggering improbability that their occurrence strains the limits of statistical likelihood. We are forced to consider two possibilities: either we are the beneficiaries of an almost infinitely unlikely series of cosmic accidents, or our models are missing a fundamental component.

    This paper will explore the latter possibility by examining three key improbabilities.

    2. Foundational Paradoxes
    2.1 Baryon Asymmetry: The observed dominance of matter over antimatter is a foundational problem. The Standard Model predicts a near-perfect symmetry that should have resulted in total annihilation, leaving a universe devoid of matter. The slight imbalance that allowed for our existence remains one of physics' most profound mysteries.

    2.2 The Lunar Stabilizer and the "Rare Earth" Hypothesis: The formation of Earth's disproportionately large Moon via the Giant-Impact Hypothesis is an event of extreme improbability. The specific mass, velocity, and impact angle required were incredibly precise. Yet, this single event was a prerequisite for complex life, as the Moon's gravitational influence stabilized Earth’s axial tilt, prevented chaotic climate swings, and contributed to the formation of a robust magnetosphere. Planets lacking such a stabilizing body are statistically far more likely, yet potentially inhospitable to advanced life.

    2.3 The Origin of Life (Abiogenesis): The spontaneous emergence of self-replicating organisms from a non-living chemical medium is an event of profound complexity. While the necessary chemical components may be abundant, the specific sequence of reactions required to spark life represents a transition of such improbability that time alone may not be a sufficient explanation.

    3. The Complexity Operator (g) Postulate
    I propose that these events are not independent statistical flukes but are manifestations of a fundamental, underlying principle.

    Definition: The complexity operator (g) is a weak, non-sentient force that acts as a biasing principle on probabilistic systems.

    3.1 An Anti-Entropic Principle: The operator functions within the laws of thermodynamics. It does not reduce total universal entropy. Instead, it increases the likelihood of pathways that create pockets of low entropy (high complexity and order), such as a stable solar system or a living cell, at the expense of a greater increase in entropy elsewhere in the system. It is the engine that drives the formation of complex structures in a universe that is, on the whole, winding down.

    3.2 A Force on Potential, Not Outcome: The operator does not predetermine outcomes or exhibit intent. It acts on the "raw material" of the universe. It might increase the probability of a genetic combination that allows for exceptional intelligence, but it has no influence on how that intelligence is ultimately used. It biases the universe toward creating a richer palette of potential, but the final masterpiece, or catastrophe, is left to subsequent events. It is a force of creation, not of morality or destiny.

    4. Implications and Falsifiable Predictions
    The primary implication of this postulate is that the universe is not merely random but possesses an inherent tendency toward the creation of complex, self-sustaining systems. This leads to a clear, testable prediction.

    Hypothesis: Planetary systems that our models deem rare, such as stable terrestrial planets within the habitable zone featuring large, stabilizing moons, should be observed with a frequency that deviates significantly from predictions based on random chance.

    Proposed Test: A large-scale survey of nearby star systems utilizing advanced astrometric techniques is required. The detection of the secondary gravitational "wobble" induced by large exomoons would allow us to build a statistical sample. If the frequency of such systems is shown to be significantly higher than predicted, it would provide the first empirical evidence for the existence of a biasing principle like the complexity operator.

    5. Conclusion
    The concept of a "complexity operator" challenges the prevailing view of a purely stochastic universe. It suggests that the existence of complexity, stability, and life is not a mere accident but a predictable, if rare, feature of a cosmos with a subtle, built-in bias toward their creation. While this remains a theoretical framework, it provides a unified explanation for several major observational paradoxes and, most importantly, offers a clear, falsifiable prediction that is within the reach of our next generation of astronomical instruments.
     
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    We are not aware of wormhole travel, that does not mean it can not exist.

    The lifespan of organisms on our planet varies by at least 8 orders of magnitude, i see no particular law of nature that precludes entities from living on a completely different "time scale", e.g. 100000 years is an unreasonable long time for us, but how could we be sure that there is noone who would consider that "reasonably short".
     
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    Both of these are assumptions based on current understanding of the universe. They very well may be true, but I certainly wouldn't say its guaranteed. We have a long history of being wrong about things we 'knew' to be true.

    Even if they are true, there are 200 billion stars in just our galaxy, and its only 100,000 light years across. So it would only have to take one out of 200 civilizations to be a million or two years ahead of us to easily colonize the galaxy.

    Regardless, I think the whole UFO thing is dumb.
     
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    In the end ...........

    WE DON'T KNOW .... WHAT WE DON'T KNOW ;) :D
     
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    Conversely, we know what we know and we know that with the laws of physics, exceeding the speed of light is impossible, and even attaining relativistic speeds may require more energy than our sun produces in an eon. Even a Class 3 civilization wouldn't be able to produce enough energy for such a high speed journey.
     
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    The type of lifeform that can exist for those time frames is undoubtedly restricted to non-biological forms, the natural outcome of a biological civilization.
     
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    The Missle did not hit it because it is not there.
     
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    Some people will travel very long distances for a good probing….
     
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