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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by grantb, Sep 9, 2025.

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  1. grantb

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    Hello all,
    Thinking about an exhaust upgrade for my F8.
    Not anxious to spend crazy money.
    Anyone had experience with Phoenix Exhaust systems?
    TIA
    Danny B
     
  2. technom3

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    I don't know who phoenix Exhaust systems is...

    But if you aren't a fan of spending a lot of money... Don't spend the money. You have a 300-450k car. Don't put inferior stuff on it (not disrespecting Phoenix they may make awesome stuff. No clue)

    If you don't want to spend a lot of money just get the valve controller from like valvetronic and you can remote open the factory exhaust.
     
  3. Redneck Slim

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    A Ferrari tech on this forum says that the only high-quality aftermarket exhaust parts he has seen are Tubi and Capristo.
     
  4. Kent Adams

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    Well, his list is too short. Kline and Larini are some of the finest exhausts made. Personally, I would put Kline above all other exhausts.
     
  5. Kent Adams

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    Do you mean Phoenyx Exhausts out of the UK? I've never heard of Phoenix Exhausts and barely heard of Phoenyx. Either way, don't ghetto rig an F8 with a cheap exhaust.
     
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  6. todd cloud

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    No
     
  7. mdrums

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    For an F8 you will need to "spend crazy money" to get it to work correctly with no issues. You will need to re-tune the ECU as you will be removing the rear GPF/valves and rear muffler and the F8 has back pressure sensors at the very least if you do a cat back exhaust leaving the down pipes/cats as stock.

    I've never heard of Pheonix exhaust. Unless you want to experiment with your money I'd stick with Novitec exhaust and Novitec piggy back tuning to get around all the sensors and tune the engine for more air/fuel flow. Oh and you will not have any warranty left from Ferrari.
     
  8. Phalen302

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    Capristo only. Tried many brands and they all have challenges. You get what you pay for
     
  9. Redneck Slim

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    My Kline x-pipe fits properly and has been fine for 20,000 miles.
     
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  10. Kent Adams

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    You do get what you pay for, which is why Kline Inconnel is the most expensive system on the market. Nothing can touch it.
     
  11. Phalen302

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    Yes. Kline are best value. In my limited real life experience, you will be rolling a dice if not Novitec or Capristo. Not saying others are not awesome. Just my experience.
     
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  13. Cigarzman

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    Justin, I have that setup on mine. It still sounds like crap and will throw an occasional CEL. IMHO a waste of money too.
     
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  14. technom3

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    Wait you get a.CEL.from a valve controller?
     
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  15. Cigarzman

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    #15 Cigarzman, Sep 20, 2025 at 11:16 AM
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    Yes. I’ve had a few since it was installed by F Tampa a few years ago . I hardly ever use it anymore. It is the Forza remote control system. Two of the 3 had cleared themselves. The other I had to clear. So bottom line it wasn’t worth it. By the way this is on a 2021 F8 S.
     
  16. Kent Adams

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    Kline inconel is not a budget brand, its one of the most expensive on the market. A full inconel system is around $20,000 last I checked.
     
  17. technom3

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    Wow. Had one on a 23 f8 and it was great. Hmmm odd. That's very very strange that the valve caused a cel. Very strange.
     
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  18. Cigarzman

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    Maybe it was an issue on the earlier cars. I can only share my experience with mine . Did you use the Forza as well ? I can tell you that F Tampa stopped installing them after mine.
     

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