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  1. steved033

    steved033 F1 World Champ
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    WEC is next weekend. 6 hrs fuji.
     
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  2. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    And the premise is, uh……..out there. If it were true and exposed, Macca could never attract another front line driver.
     
  3. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Singapore 2008 level out there. but that happened :p

    really the problem it highlights is how poorly Mclaren is managing their drivers. 300+ point lead in WCC and one of their drivers is going to win a tainted WDC.
     
  4. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    The taint;)will depend on the points difference if Norris wins. So if he does I hope it’s by a lot. If Piastri wins, no taint.:D Unless there’s more drama to come.
     
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  5. Bill in Atlanta

    Bill in Atlanta Formula Junior

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    Has McLaren given an "official" explanation for Piastri's crash ?
    We all assume driver error/lockup, but has mechanical issue, tire problem etc been ruled out ?
     
  6. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Oscar blamed himself (9:25 mark)

     
  7. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    As he set about regaining positions on the opening lap, Piastri attempted to go to the outside of a group of cars at Turn 5 and crashed into the barriers.

    "I think just ultimately I misjudged the grip level," Piastri said. "Probably a lot of that's from dirty air, but I know better than that -- to expect the lack of grip.

    "I'm certainly not blaming it on anything else. It was two simple errors on my behalf that I caused today."
     
  8. TonyL

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    I think there was much more to it than that TBH, regardless of source, someone like Horner doesnt go from a competant TP to a bad one. Much darker forces were at play. Just my opinion.
     
  9. TonyL

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    Have you ever read "The Perfect Car", if not then buy a copy and read it. If you have then dont forget the shear lunacy of Ferrari in not even opening boxes of (suspension)components sent from the UK for the car they were building, instead, if i recall correctly made new ones which were not the same as those designed in the UK. Just one simple example of SF chaos!

    They have some of the right ingredients, unfortunately they dont know what cake they are going to bake.

    The only time SF will be top of the charts is when the others screw up!
     
  10. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Spot on. The car has moved towards the VCARB in driveability and one just needs to see Lawson for that. Mekies has moved completely away from sim set up preliminary running to driver focused/feedback on Friday Prac-1.
    The results are immediate as RedBull is faster earlier in practice. Zero conspiracy.
    Horner vs Mekies is not the issue although Mekies has focused the team MORE on a better car than politics etc. Want to win = FIX the car. Certainly Max is not the issue. Any progress in driveability will make the 2nd stronger and yield MORE POINTS lol - Duh! :)
     
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  11. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Yes exactly. Horner has done a great job with the team in his time, undeniable. But politics became his strong game. We don't know exactly what went on behind the scenes, maybe he was close to the simulator team or simulator team has always done a great job in finding a sweet spot and Horner couldn't let it go.

    Mekies is a new pair of eyes on the situation and essentially went with a ''gut feeling'' on which route to follow. In a way he had it ''easy'' by being the new TP and the team essentially out of the running for both championships anyways.

    We'll find out in both singapore and epecially COTA if Red Bull's new floor has helped the car move forwards as well.
     
  12. TonyL

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    Always been my opinion that there is to much reliance on simulator work, may have worked in the past but the modern crop of cars are way to sensitive and possibly unpredictable. Teams are rather forced into that technology due to the stupid testing restrictions, If Mekkies has gone down the route of driver /track input then well done on him.
     
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  13. Bill in Atlanta

    Bill in Atlanta Formula Junior

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    DF1...thanks for that, I hadn't seen the Piastri comments

    McLaren needs to get their act together or they will lose the WDC to Max (count Max out at your own peril)
    The above comments re: Mekies and the focus on driver vs. sim input make sense, and could spell doom for both McLaren drivers if not careful
    Piastri now feeling the pressure, we know Lando's mental and race weaknesses (eg starts).....a resurgent Max could still take the title
    As they say, a lot of racing to go....
     
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  14. itschris

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    It certainly crossed my mind.
     
  15. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    totally agree. F1 would be more fun I would say if we got rid of a huge amount of the computers + limit staff, but I guess we can't unlearn what they already know...
     

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