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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Bowzer, Sep 20, 2025 at 3:00 AM.

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  1. Bowzer

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    #1 Bowzer, Sep 20, 2025 at 3:00 AM
    Yesterday, I had a conversation about my car's history with a very special person, Sig. Carlo Tazzioli, the former Ferrari Spa commercial director and former manager of Ferrari Deutschland and Switzerland. He also proceeded to talk about the 365 GTC4 in general.

    '' E' ancora una bella auto. Ha avuto una vita breve causa la guerra tra Arabi ed Israeliani del 1973 e della conseguente crisi petrolifera mondiale. In fabbrica la chiamavamo afettuosamente "gobbone" per la sua forma arcuata. ''
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    I proceeded to ask him if he knew of any discussions between Ferrari and Pininfarina regarding the design of this model, and the answer was :
    '' Delle dinamiche interne di Pininfarina non sono al corrente. Il nostro interfaccia era Leonardo Fioravanti. Il nostro progettista era Angelo Bellei che aveva una grande intesa con Fioravanti. Le richieste del nostro Marketing erano chiare: una vettura piu' aerodinamica grazie al motore con carburatori laterali. Linee sinuose accattivanti e una pancetta posteriore in grado di accogliere sacche per giocatori di golf o di tennis. Pininfarina soddisfo' le richieste. ''

    Showing him the picture below with Enzo Ferrari smiling at the prototype presented ( Note,no fog lights yet ). He promptly answered :
    '' Ferrari amava le sue creature e ne' andava fiero .''

    I will not translate so as to not contaminate these important comments from such an important person who was at the time in the epicentre of Ferrari SPA.
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  2. donv

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    #2 donv, Sep 20, 2025 at 9:52 AM
    So in turn I had to use Google Translate! Hopefully Google caught the spirit of the comments, I think it did.

     
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    #3 Bowzer, Sep 20, 2025 at 11:40 AM
    Yes , usually it's very correct ;-)
     
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    #4 Birel, Sep 22, 2025 at 10:56 PM
    Carlo Tazzioli, what a wonderful gentleman.
     
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    #5 turbo-joe, Sep 23, 2025 at 2:14 AM
    I met him in the factory in 1984 or 1985. very nice gentleman with a lot of knowledge. will have a look at some photo history in my folders when I have time if I will find some photos.
     
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    #6 LVP488, Sep 23, 2025 at 7:15 AM
    Thankfully French and Italian are close enough to allow to understand short sentences :) - even though I definitely do not speak Italian.
     
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    #7 Bowzer, Sep 24, 2025 at 1:24 AM
    The Ferrari 365 GTC/4 , contrary to common belief, is not a 2+2 car but a 2 seater coupe'. This, as described on the official Ferrari website in the Past Models section. The GTC/4 nomenclature to the body means Gran Turismo Coupe', and the 4 denotes the 4 cams on the V12 engine. The official 4 seater was the later 365 GT4 2+2 with the same V12 engine. Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  8. Marcel Massini

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    #8 Marcel Massini, Sep 24, 2025 at 4:14 AM
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    #9 365GTC/4, Sep 24, 2025 at 5:33 AM
    I personally like the plaid seats. Cool. So many were replaced with all leather when "restored". And many repainted in resale red too. Boo.
     
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    #10 Bowzer, Sep 24, 2025 at 6:37 AM
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    You are correct with showing the rear '' seats '' , which do fold down for storage or a Jacket, and you know well that these seats do not accommodate any normal sized persons,( see my pic and tell me if a knee can fit between the front seat and the rear ''seat''. Also, the above sloped glass makes it next to impossible to go in and out. But what I said is not how many ''seats'' the car has, but showing the nomenclature referral on the Official Ferrari website section of Past Models. Maybe this has skipped your attention ? Better websites on this matter than Official Ferrari website section of Past Models ?
    On the same official site you will find the same description of the Ferrari 365 GT 2+2
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    #11 Bowzer, Sep 24, 2025 at 6:59 AM
    I erroneously ommited inserting the reference from the same site for the Ferrari 365 GT 2+2 , here it is .
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  12. Marcel Massini

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    #12 Marcel Massini, Sep 24, 2025 at 8:43 AM
    Everybody knows that no adult can really sit in the back of a 365 GTC/4.
    Nothing has skipped my attention, I am fully aware of the "nomenclature", no worries, except that some websites are stating b.s.
    It just is not a "two seater Coupé". Maybe it is a four-seater Coupé? After all, the pix I posted of 365 GTC/4 interiors show more than two seats.
    Nowadays, unfortunately, there are so many people who just blindly trust all websites, like lemmings.
    Splitting hairs?

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    #13 Bowzer, Sep 24, 2025 at 10:38 AM
    '' there are so many people who just blindly trust all websites, like lemmings ''

    You keep insisting that the website is not to be trusted. The website is the following : Official Ferrari website , and the attached screenshots are from the Past Models section , there.
    And there is no need to split hairs here, just quoting what is written on the Official Ferrari website.
    It was just a curiosity.

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