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  1. TheMayor

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    This is also talked about in this video.
     
  2. NYC Fred

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    I like your thinking...oh, and Albert's...
     
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    First of all, I'm not so sure that the bending space for high speed travel is impossible... from everything I have read, it is certainly theoretically possible.

    But, let's suppose it's not. What if you had life forms who lived 10,000 years plus? To them, spending a few years, or a century or two getting somewhere would be no big deal.

    Much of the speculation in this thread involves the belief that "life" needs to look like life on earth. Nonsense! There could be forms of "life" which are pure energy, for all we know.
     
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    It is estimated that there are between 200 billion (2×10¹¹) to 2 trillion galaxies in the observable universe.
    A typical galaxy contains between 10 million and 1 trillion stars.

    We’re talking a lot of stars here…:p
    Inconceivable…
     
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    2 years ago I was having dinner with a major federal contractor, there were roughly 10 of us so lots of sidebar discussions. I asked the guy that I have a relationship with about his next project, in my head Im just looking for more work. Anyways, he tells me they are working on reverse engineering night vision from a craft. We couldn't go much deeper but this guy doesn't bs. Believe what you like.
     
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    Night vision technology evolved from the 1800s discovery of infrared radiation to the early 1900s development of image converter tubes, with early military use by the Soviets in the late 1930s and World War II Germans with devices like the FG 1250 tank sight. The technology advanced significantly through the Cold War with the development of smaller, more efficient generations, becoming more mobile during the Vietnam War and reaching tactical prominence with Gen 3 devices in Operation Desert Storm in the 1990s. Modern Gen 4 technology uses gated/filmless systems for superior low-light performance, and both image intensification and thermal imaging are now used in military, law enforcement, and civilian applications. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]

    Early Development (1790s-1930s) [1]
    • Infrared Radiation Discovery: British astronomer Sir John Herschel discovered infrared radiation in the late 1790s.
    • Bolometer and Photoconductivity: American inventor Samuel Langley invented the bolometer in 1878 to detect infrared, followed by Theodore Case's discovery of photoconductivity in the infrared band in 1917.
    • First Image Display: The evaporagraph, developed in 1929, displayed the first image from infrared radiation.
    • Image Converter Tube: The foundational image converter tube was developed in 1941 by G. Holst and Horst at Philips, using a photocathode to convert infrared to a visible image on a phosphor screen.
    World War II and Cold War Era
    • Early Military Use: The British military experimented with early, bulky infrared devices in the late 1920s, while the Soviet Union was the first to advance night vision for military vehicles in the late 1930s. [2, 4]
    • WWII Devices: Germany used infrared devices on vehicles and tanks, such as the FG 1250, and the Vampir on handheld weapons during World War II. [3, 4]
    • Post-War Advancement: ITT Corporation began providing night vision tools to the U.S. military in 1958, leading to smaller, more reliable Generation 2 devices in the 1970s that amplified light without needing external IR sources. [3, 5]
    Modern Advancements (1970s-Present)
    • Vietnam War: Night vision became more mobile and practical for units dealing with guerrilla warfare. [4]
    • Operation Desert Storm (1990s): Generation 3 devices, with their advanced gallium arsenide photocathodes, offered superior clarity and range, making night vision a key tactical advantage. [5, 6]
    • Gen 4 and Beyond: The introduction of gated/filmless technology in Gen 4 goggles significantly improved target detection and resolution at low light levels. [5]
    • Applications: Night vision is now used by military forces, law enforcement, and civilians, often amplifying ambient light like starlight for image intensification or detecting heat for thermal imaging. [7, 8]

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    [3] https://www.agmglobalvision.com/When-Was-Night-Vision-Invented-and-by-Who
    [4] https://www.evolutionhelmets.com/When-Was-Night-Vision-Invented_b_21.html
    [5] https://nightvisionguys.com/articles/post/a-night-vision-goggles-introduction-origins-evolutions-and-more
    [6] https://www.peaknano.com/blog/the-evolution-of-u.s.-night-vision
    [7] https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/seeing-dark-history-night-vision-180963357/
    [8] https://rebtechnvg.com/about/nvg_history/
     
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    Completely irrelevant to my post and point
     
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    Perfect answer.

    It's obviously impossible for humanity to have developed night vision technology by ourselves.

    I'm guessing you and engineering are complete strangers.
     
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    Not like what I am referring to, that is the point. What you posted is the history of a tech that is rudimentary in comparison to what they are working on. I wasn't looking for a history lesson on night vision, I have used it for years in different applications.
     
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    Your post just proves that the world needs gullible fools as much as qualified engineers.
     
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    Or like yourself some will go on with their heads in the sand. I don't know for certain what is true but I am willing to keep an open mind.
     
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    Behind every advancement in technology is a person or team with names who put their blood and sweat into their work. Foolishly claiming all their accomplishments are fake and the product of aliens instead is not having an open mind, but instead shows a deep ingrained ignorance.
     
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    Wow. Am I missing something in the above conversation? The first gentleman claims that a group is reverse engineering night vision from a craft. The second gentleman seems to have read that as, "We don't have amazing night vision technology, but fortunately are going to be able to reverse engineer it from an alien craft." I'm not understanding where the first gentleman ever implied that we, as humans, don't already have amazing, invented-by-humans, night vision technology. Furthermore, I don't understand how the second gentleman, an engineer, wouldn't allow for the possibility that some alien craft might have some fabulous night vision technology that we might want to reverse engineer to further ours.
     
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    Makes more sense now knowing he's an engineer. Lol. So offended because I shared a story. Pretty fragile ego.

    I have ~200 engineers that work for one of my companies and I've been in tech most of my life. I've learned that most of these guys know a lot about very few applications, in other words they are specialists. Take them outside the box and things can go sideways.

    My anecdotal story is real and from a trusted source, from one of the larger fed ISVs. Take from it what you like.
     
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    Let's just take your comment at face value. You say an acquaintance divulged confidential and top secret information, which you are now spreading on the Internet.

    I can conclude one of these as likely:

    1. Your friend is now serving a life sentence at a black site prison for his violation of the security oath.

    2. Your friend, knowing you as gullible, told you a silly story.

    3. This is the most likely. The entire story is just trolling.

    Take your pick.
     
  16. Gh21631

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    You are so out of touch, you know nothing.
     
  17. EastMemphis

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    And that is the perfect reply.

    Here's a good test you can run yourself.

    If your "friend" is not in a black site prison, then you know he was shining you on.

    Maybe he meant he was reverse engineering a craft beer and you misunderstood him because it was 2:00am and the lights in the bar just came on. Can happen to anyone.
     
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    Why exactly would somebody be in prison for sharing the information that he is reverse engineering night vision from a craft?

    Craft could refer to all different kind of things and origins. Could be a Chinese, Japanese or South Korean vehicle. There is no law of nature that guarantees US supremacy on nv technology. Could be a vehicle from another company within the US. Could theoretically be an Alien vehicle (but seems least likely).

    In any case that statement is vague enough that nobody would benefit from throwing the guy into any kind of prison. All that would achieve is to draw attention to the matter.
     
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    His comments are nonsensical, he has no idea what he is saying. I know the world he is trying to refer to better than he can ever imagine but it makes him feel better to pontificate nonsense. Best to just ignore.
     
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