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Diablo with Murci wheels: centering rings needed or are the centerbores the same?

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  1. Auraraptor

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    My 6.0 phone dials are 8.5 x 18 ET63 | 13 x 18 ET24.5 with a 5x120 bolt pattern

    Random websites on the net says CB is 70.06 mm while murci centerbore is 72.6mm

    That seems suspect. What is the actual centerbore on Diablo and Murci/LP640/LP670 wheels?
     
  2. Auraraptor

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  3. Auraraptor

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    Pulled wheels and checked: they are both 70.0x mm
     
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  4. tbakowsky

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    The wheel bolts are different required permanent mods to the Diablo hub.
     
  5. Auraraptor

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    ?? That seems like a bit of overkill. The Diablo uses M12 bolts about the same size as OEM BMW bolts of the time…12x1.5 tapered with a 25-27mm length.

    Murci uses M14x1.5 bolts.

    Just get M12 in the same size as the Murci bolt and your set? No need to retap the hub to a M14 size.
     
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  6. islerodreaming

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    Topcarbon on here fitted a set to his Diablo years ago. He could set you straight.
     
  7. Auraraptor

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    #7 Auraraptor, Sep 23, 2025
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2025
    Would love to hear how @topcarbon approached it. I have been using late Murci wheels for several years with the OEM diablo 6.0 bolts.

    What prompted this thread was I got curious what the offset differences between the 6.0 phone dials and LP670SV wheels.

    While looking it up I noticed the odd centerbore listed for the Murci which made me wonder if centering rings were warranted (the difference listed from the diablo was roughly the same as that between a E38 and E39 BMW wheel and in that case rings are needed). I had never used rings and got curious.

    This was 2016:
     

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  8. Auraraptor

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    Might as well add, this is what I found so far:


    Diablo Technical Wheel Data

    6.0: 8.5 x 18 ET63 | 13 x 18 ET24.5 CB 70 (Confirmed)
    Weight: ???? (I don't have unmounted wheels to check)

    LP 670SV: 8.5 x 18 ET58 | 13 x 18 ET14.5 CB 70 (Confirmation pending)
    Weight: 19.6 lb F | 27.7 lb R
     
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  9. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    Do you have a contact at HRE? I wonder if they have all the stock measurement info on file since they have probably made lots of sets for these cars in the past.
     
  10. Auraraptor

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    Unfortunately nope. I am just checking/weighing what I have in my collection directly. The SV wheels are comically NLA now so its hard to find independent data.
     
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  11. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    Sorry to hear...I found a couple posts on Lambo forums where guys said 70.1 mm (Murcie roadster) and 70.06 mm bore size on their Murcies so hopefully that is reassuring. Maybe they know the answer to your other measurements.
     
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  12. white out

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    Can use Diablo bolts on Murci wheels.
     

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