Fuse box upgrade

Waw, I'm impressed !! We should find some one with a 3D printer who can work this out....

 

Craig,
why is your K relais on the lower line of your fuse board ? normally it is in the upper line like on this picture

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This might be a stupid question, but I wondered for a long time why that one relay is marked "K"
Alden

 

There are NO stupid questions on this website...
Almost every OEM fuse box I've looked at has relays marked with a "K." So it seems this was done at the factory before installation. I have no explanation for this.

This is a 512TR I believe...
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This a 328 (very light K) on the relais 14
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Board for F40/288GTO

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Board for mondial QV/3.2
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That "K" relais is most of the time Bosch 0332015006 2X15A Double-pole.

 

Guido, yeah I know my fuse box was that way originally until I upgraded all the relays. Now I just have a odd blue relay in place of the k relay. Everyone I've ever seen that was original has that marked k. Probably has something to do with assembly at the factory, I think you're right.
Alden
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Also, I seem to be having trouble getting the brown colored relays now, all the ones that I've attempted to order have been black and have a different have a different number, do you think these are compatible?
Alden

 

Replacement Bosch relays from Afterburners wiring diagrams.
The K relay is a Bosch 0332015006.
Alden

 

Schematic on the brown and black relays looks identical to me so I guess they're okay.
The brown ones came in a Bosch box even though they're marked something different, maybe the black ones are better since they say Bosch?
Alden
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The relay marked with the "K" is special because the two 87 output terminals are not always connected together. When it is activated, the 30 and both 87 terminals are all connected together just like the relays in your post #34, but it's when it is not activated that it is different. Consequently, a "K" relay can often sort of work in a position that would normally take a relay like in your post #34, but not the other way around.

This picture shows the "schematic" of the "K" relay -- note that the output terminals 87 and 87b are not connected together (whereas the two 87 output terminals of the relays in your post #34 are always connected together):
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No, exactly the same -- just different manufacturers (Bosch vs TE Connectivity) and both are good manufacturers.

 

What makes it interesting is that the letter K does not exist in Italian.
In the Italian alphabet, the letter "k" is not an official letter, but it is used in loanwords. The letter "k" is spelled and pronounced "kappa" in Italian.

 

So why mark it with a K? Don't understand what "loanwords" means.
Alden

 

Loanwords are words adopted by one language (the target language) from another language (the source language). These words are integrated into the target language, often with some adaptation in pronunciation, spelling, or grammar, but generally retain their original meaning. The process of adopting these words is called borrowing.
English has many loanwords, such as "ballet" (from French), "piano" (from Italian), and "tycoon" (from Japanese).
Or the letter K should stand for an English word like "key," "knob," or "kill." There aren't many English words that would work either.

 

Well, considering that one of my degrees is in English Literature, I never heard the word "loanwords" used to describe the transfer of word from one language to another.
We say that a word was 'borrowed" from another language or "appropriated." It's all the same thing; Borrow/loan. I get it now.
Still doesn't explain why the Italians used a K for that relay. ??
Alden

 

It could be a German thing -- AFAIK, that K marking is/was put on the relay by Bosch, not Ferrari.

 

So in German K would mean short, right?
Like 9 mm Kurtz (380), 98k rifle, etc.
Still don't understand, lol.
Sorry to derail this thread though, lol!
Alden

 

This also crossed my mind! A Bosch thing. They wanted to color-code their relays, like the orange stripe on relay "101." So the engineer tells the workshop manager, "Put a blue code on relay "006." The workshop manager tells the worker, and he asks, "What blue?" The first thing that came to MY mind was "Kobaltblau!".
The worker, instead of a line, literally puts a blue K for Kobalt (cobalt in English) on the relay....
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Alden, don't apologize. We are here to learn and we do every day !

 

Craig, then it was not correct in the first place. It should be like this picture.


But when every thing is working like it should, then I suggest leaving it ....have a nice ride with your car !!

 

I'll wager that it isn't (but in ways that aren't super obvious). Craig has a ...113 relay where the K relay should be. When activated, a ...113 relay and a K relay are exactly the same so all his parking lights, dash lights, etc. will seem to be working properly when the headlight knob switch is "on"; however, when the headlight knob switch is "off", and you press the parking light switch "on" = only a few of the exterior parking lights should come "on". With that ...113 relay there, if Craig presses the parking light switch "on" with the headlight switch "off" = many more of the parking light bulbs, ashtray bulbs, dash light bulbs, etc. will come "on" than intended.

Likewise, the relay socket where Craig now has the K relay, there should be a ...101 relay, but this relay position is involved in the flashing light function. Having a K relay there probably won't cause a serious problem, but I'll bet the flashing function isn't working as designed.