Lol, dealer wholesale is definitely a lowball. I wouldn't likely go that route... but I still don't think I'd be in the negative... Also, not surprised about 12C prices. Massively overpriced compared to 812, massively negative reception on styling, and I wouldn't spring for one personally.
So you’re agreeing with me! Lol my point was Ferrari are now so egregiously pricing especially with options (296/849/12C/Puro) that they’re getting being demolished in the secondary. and the dealer lowball is wild. I bet they’d offer you $450k and list for $550k. They typically offer 80% of what they’d list for.
Really? My close friend just this month purchased a 200 mile $580k spec 812GTS for $530k. It was on the market for a while slowly being reduced. It is beautiful inside and out. He purchased this car from a Ferrari dealer. The market has fallen since the announcement of the 12C and these cars are relatively stable in price now.
Seeing the 12C in person made me trade in my TM 812GTS. Magma over special leather, it was one of a kind with some options nobody else ever did. Of course sights are set on the 12CVS, but way into the design now. It was a slow approval...
My late ‘23 GTS was moderately spec’d at $600K and will go on consignment very soon with my 12C spider arriving at port in NJ. Watching the market and speaking to my dealer GM, it’ll likely transact a fair bit under MSRP with 2,000 miles.
In addition to my friends higher spec car at about $45k off sticker with 200 miles… MY 812 2021 GTS purchased for $470k in December 2024 with 2600 miles including a 2 year warranty extension and a new set of tires. Ferrari dealers are not mispricing these. Why would yours be worth $130k over sticker?
Dealer called while servicing - GTS spec sensitive 8% less msrp. 3000 miles of enjoyment, no other elegant front engine car that retains anywhere near GTS value. Serious delay / shortage !2Ci Spiders - mine is 9-12 months away. I think there will be way less 12Ci's than expected. Driving V12 roadster - one of the most elegant / fun cars on the planet and next V12 model 3M. Next V12 will have hybrid - think Speciale in a V12 Spider - when was the last V12 Spider
Love my GTS and specced exactly the way I want it. ZERO interest in the 12C - nothing to do with looks etc etc but if I want to "blast" a car through the hills - there are better more purposeful cars (GT2RS, 765LT, 296 etc etc). GTS to me is the pinnacle IMO
I was driving the Circuit of Barcelona few days ago while they were testing the new GT3 Temerario (hybrid removed) the timing was insane I will not disclose it but all I can say is damn that car is fast! Also the sound, it followed the V10 Super Trofeo cars and I personally liked the sound better definitely not as insane as my Essenza which literally gave me a splitting headache the following day LOL but it still sounded very good so yes IMO even without hybrid these cars can be made super fast.
There is a difference between a race car and a road car though; the 296 GT3 is also without hybrid. For a road car, being hybrid has become an efficient way to enhance performance while keeping all the weight of the comfort and legal equipment. It's become the follow up of turbocharging...
