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  1. Whitby

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    There used to be a source of solid state replacements for the factory F1 pump relay, but the links are all dead. Anyone know of an option to replace my aging relay, without simply buying a new one from Ferrari? I might end up doing that, just so I know the relay is not 20 years old, but this is one area where I think solid state is the way to go if it is an option. I drive my car, and track it occasionally, so I am not bothered by the non OEM status.
     
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  3. mike32

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    Scuding swiss on google will get you what you are after
     
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    That is a mechanical .. it has a coil in it to pull a lever to contacts
    Solid state like scuding is all electronics
    I have mentioned before the biggest benefit of a solid state relay ( not a scuding..that is a different unit) is faster switching - you really don't need it here for this application
    Replacing them every few years with something like the one you posted is more than fine .. the only exception is if you are having issues with your F1 system that causes more cycling it is highly recommended to change once you fix the original problem

    Just a note - the pin setup on a solid state relay may be different and most likely will not have flyback protection
     
  8. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    If he has an older 360 (built before fall 2003), he only has a 30 amp relay.
     
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    For what it’s worth, I have a 2004 Challenge Stradale and I still have the old 30A relay in my car.
     
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    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    Yup, early 2004 MY cars were built before the change was made in fall 2003. My Nov 2003 MY 04 575M has the 30-amp relay. The change on 575Ms was made at AN 52556 and it is probably pretty close to that for the V8s.

    A much better 30-amp relay is available through BMW. It is a Tyco V23134-B57-X266, BMW part number 61.36-8 366 646. I have had that same relay, not from BMW, for several years with no problems.

    GENUINE BMW 61 36 8 366 646 / 61368366646 - OEM BMW Parts – Online BMW Parts Store (bmwpartsfactory.com)
     
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    anyone know where teh f1 pump and its associated fuses and relays are on a 2013 california?
     
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    Go onto Eurospares web site and look at the California page
     
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    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    You do not have any F1 system in your California, you have a dual clutch transmission (DCT). No F1 pump required for the transmission.
     
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    thank you for this - duff info from Chat GPT!

    Im still at a loss as to why i cant get the car to move into gear though
     
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    The original 30-amp relays tended to overheat and the contacts have fused together. This causes the F1 pump to run continuously and burn out.
     
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    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    That is the second time this week ChatGPT has given duff Ferrari technical information. Garbage in, garbage out, regardless of whether it is AI.
     
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