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355 Non-airbag steering wheel F355

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  1. Lesplaces

    Lesplaces Karting

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    To be fair to them the base wheel is 2.6k but then the extended boss from Liuisa 390 and then horn 150 and resistance 40 bring it up to 3180 plus tax
     
  2. willrace

    willrace Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #27 willrace, Sep 25, 2025
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    If they did a smaller diameter version close to the Momo I've got now, I'd be in, even at that price.
    Thee neck hub (either 30mm or extended 50mm) includes the factory-type "cone neck cover", which I guess is leather.
     
  3. Lesplaces

    Lesplaces Karting

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    I saw JK from jamiroquais car out this evening. He had the challenge momi wheel. It looked cool but somehow still not right for the car
     

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  4. willrace

    willrace Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Mine (ex-355Bob's car) looks right-ish, but the same size in the factory design would be preferred, but only that would get me to jump on it.
     
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  5. ShineKen

    ShineKen Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Results of the project were pretty good. High demand item at this stage.
     
  6. Lesplaces

    Lesplaces Karting

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  7. Timmo

    Timmo Formula Junior

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    Got one as well, with the extended hub which makes a signifiant difference in drivability and comfort as I have long legs and I can now move my knees freely behind the wheel when getting in and out of the car.
    It is not cheap for sure but you get what you pay for.
     
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  8. lanab

    lanab Formula Junior

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    Torbjörn and his team did an excellent job bringing this forward, i visited him before summer and was welcomed to see more insight of the construction, many hours was put into this before it was accepted.
     
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  9. Lesplaces

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    Yes I have to say the end product looks superb and feels very nice in the hand. Can't wait to fit it. If I ever sell the car which is an airbag 2.7 I will be able to offer both options to the new owner. Airbag or Non. In both cases a working passenger airbag. I feel this is the prefect combination. 2.7 engine with passenger airbag and beautiful steering wheel.
     
  10. Timmo

    Timmo Formula Junior

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    I'd say that 2.7 cars with airbags seem to all come with "reinforced" heads and the simpler single fuel pump set up. Probably more convincing arguments than having a passenger airbag.
     
  11. Lesplaces

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    Ok that's really interesting I did not know that. Did they also have the steel valve rods ? Mine is sept 1995 chasis 103103. Not sure how I can tell such details.
     
  12. Lesplaces

    Lesplaces Karting

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    Chatgpt says the manifolds and head were identical but then it's AI so probably nonsense
     
  13. Lesplaces

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    So you say that some of the 2.7 units with dual ECUs came with single fuel pumps ? How did that work ?
     
  14. Timmo

    Timmo Formula Junior

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    Mine definitely has the "closed" corners on outer head nuts. December 95 build, most likely still on its original bronze valve guides. I suppose only one ECU drives the single pump. Ian who is our master electrician/diagram expert will know for sure.
     
  15. Lesplaces

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    From chatgpt: "

    Every 2.7 car — including December ’95 builds — has two ECUs, each controlling one bank (and one fuel pump).

    Each ECU fires its own injectors, monitors its own lambda sensors, and controls its own fuel-pump relay.

    There is no single pump until Bosch Motronic 5.2 arrives (mid-’96).

    If someone’s December ’95 car appears to have one pump, it’s either been converted or misidentified — the twin pumps are buried under the right-hand tank cover, and owners often assume they see only one because both pumps sit close together."
     
  16. Timmo

    Timmo Formula Junior

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    Please spare us that AI rubbish. This is wrong.
     
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  17. Qavion

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  18. Lesplaces

    Lesplaces Karting

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    Thanks for the clarification. Agreed humans still win hands down. It's like having a very confident but incompetent assistant :confused:
     
  19. 193six4

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    AI - garbage in, garbage out.

    Back to the topic of the steering wheel. If you live in the US, I recommend reaching out to Torbjorn through “Contact Us” on the von Braun website. He has been responsive and great to work with for placing an order to be imported to the US.
     
  20. Lesplaces

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    Is replacing the stick wheel with the brain one an easy job to do myself. Did anyone find step by step instructions m I'm not very handy but would try it if easy enough.
     
  21. INTMD8

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    I have customers printing out AI responses to questions and leaving them in their vehicle. (I do powertrain calibration/tuning) So far, 100% of it has been completely wrong.
     
  22. 193six4

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    I haven’t found step-by-step instruction on this forum, but it seems like once the airbag has been removed (those instructions are available on Fchat) the next step is to remove the nut holding the wheel in place with this specialized tool (https://www.ricambiamerica.com/rnt-38-ring-nut-tool-38mm.html?srsltid=AfmBOooboWY0lCzbrj-2wLdlH9ldd_qK-yFh6nPjs7sKxemmFFE5s0Eo) and then pull the wheel with something similar to this (https://www.harborfreight.com/bolt-type-wheel-puller-set-62620.html?hftm_sc=742&utm_source=google&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=21901271210&campaignid=21901271210&utm_content=171677806502&adsetid=171677806502&product=62620&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21901271210&gbraid=0AAAAADAHb4dPzGO39uviGL84XEVQr82t8&gclid=CjwKCAjw0sfHBhB6EiwAQtv5qUA62W-UKVM59BoPxGQ6As1jIhUpC9gBmtAM1cJ8yOZ1GHp-ezjvrRoCFywQAvD_BwE). If anyone else has instructions or input it would be much appreciated before I try to figure it out.
     
  23. Lesplaces

    Lesplaces Karting

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    That's already helpful thanks. Will do some more research. My new wheel from Braun didn't really have any instructions
     
  24. Lesplaces

    Lesplaces Karting

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    My specialist garage quoted 4 hours labour . Can't be can it. ?
     
  25. 193six4

    193six4 Rookie
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    I haven’t found step-by-step instruction on this forum, but it seems like once the airbag has been removed (those instructions are available on Fchat) the next step is to remove the nut holding the wheel in place with this specialized tool (https://www.ricambiamerica.com/rnt-38-ring-nut-tool-38mm.html?srsltid=AfmBOooboWY0lCzbrj-2wLdlH9ldd_qK-yFh6nPjs7sKxemmFFE5s0Eo) and then pull the wheel with a tool similar to this (https://www.harborfreight.com/bolt-type-wheel-puller-set-62620.html?hftm_sc=742&utm_source=google&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=21901271210&campaignid=21901271210&utm_content=171677806502&adsetid=171677806502&product=62620&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21901271210&gbraid=0AAAAADAHb4dPzGO39uviGL84XEVQr82t8&gclid=CjwKCAjw0sfHBhB6EiwAQtv5qUA62W-UKVM59BoPxGQ6As1jIhUpC9gBmtAM1cJ8yOZ1GHp-ezjvrRoCFywQAvD_BwE).
     

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