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430 S-Line vs. Kline vs. IPE - high pitched

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  1. collegeboy

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  2. rkrkrk

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    Finally looking to pull the trigger soon. Was hoping I could find a used system for sale to minimize the risk.

    I like the idea of the tone and weight savings of S Line.

    My Tubi non valved race exhaust that’s on there now is deeper. I definitely want to reduce drone.

    Wondering how drone is between S Line non valve, S line valved, and Kline stainless.
     
  3. jerbear27

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    I have Kline headers, Kline 100 cell cats and Kline valves exhaust all in stainless. To the earlier comments on any drone - it’s subjective. I don’t have an issue with drone, but that’s also the advantage of the valves. Long highway drive - shut the valves. For me, the louder the better. Valves are rarely closed unless I’m trying to sneak out of the neighborhood early in the morning.
     
  4. rkrkrk

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    I’d love to know from anyone that has S Line valved how much the valved mode quiets them down. Does it eliminate drone?
     
  5. 430nof

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    I have the S Line non-valved and it sounds absolutely glorious at all RPMs. I don't hear any drone but I'm not usually keeping RPMs steady
     
  6. collegeboy

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    The valved system on the SLine quieted it down some. Not a ton, but some.

    With the valves open, the exhaust was not nearly as nice and high-pitched sounding as it was when I had the unvalved system. The reason for this is because even when the valves are open, the exhaust gas is still passing through a muffler. It's never truly muffler bypassed.

    It did not eliminate the drone. It droned bad when the valves were open, and somehow even still droned with the valves closed.
     
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  7. vr4henry

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    Make sure you compare like-for-like experiences - 360 / 430 / Scud all sound different from one another regardless of exhaust brand/model

    personally, on my Scud with factory headers and cats, I think the valved S-Line sounds great. I’ve posted plenty of clips as well as boostedtoy with a non-valved version. The resonances I hear at cruising speed in 6th gear drop 90% when I close the valves. I don’t consider the drone to be an issue at all.
     
  8. CoreyNJ

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    Have you heard the Scud next to a 430 with Challenge headers? Neither would have front cats. Curious how different they sound other than the Scud reving faster with the lighter engine internals.
     
  9. 996cupracer

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    My Scud has stock headers and cats. High pitched scream at wot, mild but acceptable drone at low end. Overall, a great choice with no issues and not so loud as to be obnoxious when you don't want to be.
     
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  10. rkrkrk

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    Just to add another exhaust to the list, can anyone speak to how Valvetronic’s system (titanium) compares to the others?

    Am I right in saying it seems to sound raspier due to the titanium? There are limited videos of it.
     
  11. Sj_engr

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    What lighter internal engine parts does it have? I've seen the polished upper intake manifold.

    Challenge headers on the F430 are a lot louder than F430 stock.
     
  12. CoreyNJ

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    There are a lot of little things different in the Scud engine vs the F430 engine. Lighter Titanium connecting rods, for example. The Scud also uses higher compression pistons, and as I understand, the head is different. They also improved the oil passage flow.
     
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  13. ShineKen

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