Who cares what someone who thinks that all you need to do to get power is to put turbos on a crate V8 and who enjoys driving Chinese EVs has to say about Ferrari? Someone who only talks about top speed and 0 to 100? This guy doesn't understand what Ferrari is all about. Remember when Bugatti released its heavy 1001 hp, 407 km/h Veyron, Ferrari never tried to follow suit, to try to compete with its performance figures. Because that's not how they see a sports car in Maranello. This is the same story. Once again, here is someone who hasn't listened carefully to what Ferrari has said. He makes exaggerated statements to get his audience to watch his video... Ferrari talks about elephants because these Chinese EVs don't handle well in sporty corners despite all their power. The whole Elettrica project is based on driving dynamics, as was the case with the Purosangue and its active suspension, which is frankly brilliant. I trust them to make it fun to drive. Finally, no price has been announced yet, and Vigna himself has said that the price has not been decided, nor have the production volumes. I don't believe that for a second, but speculating on a price tag of $500,000 is, for now, just that: speculation.
It's a fact that Mitja Borkert started designing tuned cars for car magazines, but it also happens that Flavio Manzoni, when he was head of styling for Fiat and Lancia between 2004 and 2006, oversaw the design of several Fiat models, one of which was the Qubo pictured below. So, I don't think the past is what makes Manzoni and Borkert good or bad designers in the present, because most car designers, even famous ones, have created designs that are considered mediocre at some point in their careers. I don't question that Manzoni is a very talented man, and I recognize his talent in the excellence of the designs of the LaFerrari and SP3. However, and IMO, from the Roma onwards, SF90, 12-cylinder, F80, and now the 849 Testarossa, I think Manzoni could have done much better in terms of design. With the departure of the LCDM and the death of Sergio Marchione, Ferrari lost critical mass at the top of its hierarchy, and it seems to me that it was from the moment the leadership weakened that F.M. took advantage of this to impose a new aesthetic style that is his very own and that, in many ways, is a complete break with the past. Anti-anthropomorphism, designs with LED strips on the headlights and rearlights, front grilles of questionable taste, black bands connecting the front headlights generating unpleasant optical effects, design elements like the 849's vertical black bar behind the doors—all of these create a discordant effect. It’s as if Manzoni’s “Art nouveau” simply couldn’t accept absolute harmony. To paraphrase R. Scelsi “some of these un-Michelangelesque "artistic" digressions by Manzoni serve only to spark debate and are good for a painting but not for a car.” That said, and to answer your question, "Who would you entrust for the job?" If I was LCDM , I would have unconditionally entrusted the designs of that Manzoni 1 from a post-Pininfarina era and prior to this new "Art Nouveau" era. Regarding the Manzoni 2, which is the current one and has produced a series of designs I dislike in recent years, my entrustment would have been conditional and some I wouldn't have approved them . However, if I were one of Ferrari's major shareholders, I would have no doubt that Manzoni is the right man for the job, given that his designs are widely praised in all emerging markets. Image Unavailable, Please Login
I'd like you to stop repeating some of my phrases and make them your own, thank you very much. Now, it's very clear that you're here to defend the future EV and try to influence everyone's perceptions. What you say about Manzoni is just a copy-paste of a sentence you read, and I even wonder if it doesn't come from the AI. In any case, I think you're an imposter who's advancing in disguise.
Oh dear, you've found me out. Actually, I'm Enrico Galliera's (secret) son. (If that was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, well done, your message made me laugh. If not, well... too bad.)
? Mem Yes, that's a good point - his background creates a very strong foundation. But, at the end of the day, the outcomes are what matter. If his last job had been painting houses but he still managed to bring the SP3 to life, I'd be no less impressed. More impressed, actually! Conversely, if there's a design element that I don't like (like the black band on the 12C, or the plexinose on the Daytona), no description of the thought process or inspiration is likely to sway me. My response is visual and emotional, not cerebral. I would imagine that designing beautiful cars today is more difficult than ever, as you say. But, Manzoni has proven that he has the talent to do it. Whether you think the recent designs are further proof is a matter of personal taste. There is no right or wrong reaction. Though I think it's fair to say that they're more divisive than most Ferraris of the last few decades.
https://www.ferrari.com/it-IT/auto/elettrica what way is it to launch a new product? First, you usually keep any spec in secret until you're ready to sell. Second, lots of technicals that most people won't understand: at some point they write "momento di inerzia polare ridotto/reduced polar momentum of inertia". Ok, I've studied mechanical engineering and I can understand it, but most often mechanical engineers aren't the key Ferrari prospects, so why to make all others feel ignorant or confused? Third: what's the point in revealing lots of specs about an upcoming car when most people care very little and just want to see the style? (Personal guess: did they need some news to revive the stocks but the style was so bad they decided to hide and maybe remake it (with Pininfarina)? Just a guess, it surely won't be this way). Personally, as the specs and the performance don't look dramatically different from a Model 3, I am left with no understanding of why should I feel excited in the wait of more details. Sorry to write this. Ciao, Nic
So I was just at the Factory for a tour last Wednesday. I saw the Elettra mule.... ugly does not begin to describe it... basically a lower Puro.... and no noise... it was mildly disguised... 4 door, very average looking. Could not take a picture as it was inside the Factory grounds... on its way to the main back gate.
Add looks to the already-long list of reasons nobody will buy that atrocity. It will cost Ferrari billions, just as the Taycan has sunk Porsche.
Would be lovely if it flopped. Vigna was brought in as the 'tech' guy at a time where it looked like car manufacturers had to become full EV tech-stacked spaceships or go bankrupt. Wanted to cancel the 849 Testarossa early in development. The stage is different now, one can only hope the Elettrica sales and leadership changes will reflect that.
