meant to convey a 5 liter V8 for model run after 458 The 488 and F8 and 296 were inevitable but we had one good model run with NA and increased displacement before turbocharging 508?
That could be a 5.8 liter V12, a 4.8 liter 5 cylinder, or maybe a 4-liter 85 cylinder. So many possibilities!
They are still trading above 488 GTB in UK, 488 GTB are listed between GBP130-180k = $175-240k 296 GTB are listed for GBP180-240k = $240-320k Source: Autotrader UK
Time will tell. People seem to **** on all new Ferraris initially and then they go up. We are seeing that in the GTC4Lusso market. I meet very few people that have a 296/SF90/12C AND a 458. Once you drive a 296 you get rid of the old cars. The values for series production cars drop after time.
This is my sales guy’s thesis and what he’s saying to push me to order new to spec (for my 50th next year) vs rolling the dice with a lightly used car in the spec I want/can live with next spring. He claims every model follows the same path (prices go down during production, then stabilize, and then start to appreciate). He said the F8 followed the same path, I continue to maintain that we are in uncharted territory for the following reasons, but I can’t get him relent - hybrid - higher production #’s since going public - relative ease of getting a 296 allocation with no history vs previous gens.
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i can understand the a short term hit because of reason number 1 in your list. There's people hankering on about 458 NA and that caused 488 values to languish because of Twin Turbos. BUT the F8 owners are also driving TT cars and very proud of being a last bastion. This seems to be a repeatable personality pattern. Sociologists with much more expertise than myself may be able to plot this behaviour against age and income. Hopefully reason number 2 is offset by new buyers coming into this marketplace. I go to a lot of Ferrari events in Chicago and have been to the last 2 national meets as well. My observations are rooted in my interactions.
i can understand the a short term hit because of reason number 1 in your list. There's people hankering on about 458 NA and that caused 488 values to languish because of Twin Turbos. BUT the F8 owners are also driving TT cars and very proud of being a last bastion. This seems to be a repeatable personality pattern. Sociologists with much more expertise than myself may be able to plot this behaviour against age and income. Hopefully reason number 2 is offset by new buyers coming into this marketplace. I can't speak about the last
