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  1. jimmyr

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    Looking for a source and part number for a Speedi - Sleeve to repair our Daytona trans input shaft leak. A new seal failed after a few miles and lube drips into the torque tube. Suspect a scuffed or worn seal surface on the shaft.
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    Jim: NAPA, McMaster-Carr, Berry Bearing, Motion Industries, all the major bearing suppliers. SKF makes metric sizes as do most other suppliers.
     
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    Dyke, thanks for the info; will try MPI and see if they have the correct pn for the Daytona.
     
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    Jim: I think you will have to do it by dimensions, and not a specific part number.
     
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    Dyke, I have reached out to MPI and waiting for a reply. If they have a record of their use of these sleeves it would help.
     
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    Hello Jim,
    The many times we have used Speedi-Sleeves, from tractors to anything else, we give out dimensions and most of the time,
    we got what we needed.

    Not the best solution in my book, but, pardon the pun, very speedy, without taking the whole kit and caboodle apart.
     
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    Alberto, yes taking the torque tube out and making a measurement is correct as you and Dyke have noted. We are still driving the Daytona and were hoping someone had the p/n of the sleeve so it would be an in and out fix.
     
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    I just installed a Speedi-sleeve on a Daytona input shaft, 25mm diameter. The part number for a regular Speedi-sleeve is 99098, and a Speedi-sleeve gold (Ti-nitride coated) is 99813, they have the same dimensions.

    The car I am working on a has a gouge in the input shaft. It filled the torque tube up with so much oil, that it leaked past the center driveshaft bearing and was coming out of the front of the torque tube. It took me a little while to figure out how clean gear oil was leaking out near the rear of the engine
     
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    those 2 numbers are no ferrari part numbers, only 5 digits
     
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    Romano, you are correct, those are not Ferrari part numbers, but I don't think Ferrari ever even offered these type of repair/service parts and therefor don't have a number for them.
    I believe part numbers Brian is referring to are SKF Speedi-Sleeve part numbers and probably same regardless of manufacturer, kind of like all bearings or shaft seals have same industry wide number, no matter who manufactured them.
     
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    The part in question is an aftermarket solution to bearing or seal surfaces that are compromised... not a Ferrari part.
     
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    Were you able to install it without removing the front housing or ... ?
     
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    I was looking for the 2 numbers and not found, because I wanted to know what is/are speedy sleeves. the translation to german makes no sense.
    but have seen now in the 1st posting what it is. so sorry for my ignorance ;)
     
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    Brian, thanks for the Speedi part number and size. Any supplier that you know that stock these? Jim
     
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    99098 appears to be available through Grainger, but I imagine any bearing/seal supplier in your area should be able to get them.
     
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    Good, will contact Grainger to order one. Does the sleeve kit include the proper 25mm seal? Should I assume the stock seal will not fit. Jim
     
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    Speedi-Sleeves do not come with any seals as the OD, depth or lip designs vary depending on application.

    Speedi-Sleeve is intended to provide a repair solution for the shaft and allowing the use of OEM seal which you can order from your favorite Ferrari parts supplier using OEM part number for the given application.

    The kit usually comes with an installation tool, but depending on application may not always work, so some installation ingenuity, including shaft (and/or in this case, transaxle front housing) removal might be required (which is why I asked about it from Brian).
     
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    The seal is easily removed without taking the front housing off, done it twice now but it leaked so the Speedi Sleeve is the only solution.
     
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    The picture in the first post is mine. It is an example where the installation tool was not deep enough. Lucky for me the sleeve was close enough in OD to the ID of a common pipe.
     
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    With all due respect, but are you sure the problem is in the shaft and not incorrect seal or something related to its installation process ?
     
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    This ^ reminded me of a clutch service I did couple of decades ago on a +/-18K mile Daytona which up until then had been subjected to very little (almost non-existent) maintenance/services and one of the numerous problems caused by that deferred maintenance/services was revealed when I removed the torque tube and saw several small ball bearings roll out of one end of it.
    The decades old (factory installed ?) drive shaft center support bearing, due to dried up lubrication, had worked itself apart ...
    ... good thing I didn't get a chance to road test* the car, let alone at high speed, before that discovery.
    Who knows what kind of disasters were avoided due it ?

    *I actually tried to go for test drive before any services, but aforementioned decades long deferred maintenance had caused so many problems it was pretty much impossible, yet the car at the time looked (& still does) quite nice with its preservation quality original paint, upholstery, trim & overall appearance.
    It took dozens upon dozens of hours and truckload of parts to make it safe enough for road testing and then only to reveal additional issues requiring immediate attention.
     
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    Timo, the seal as it looked like it had never been replaced, and the new seal leaked after a couple of hundred miles. So, I think this time a Speedi Sleeve and a new OEM seal should have everything dry. BTW, when the last seal was installed we used Mobil 1 trans fluid per Dykes suggestion and shifting was much better, and the leaks started again. This time with the sleeve all should be OK. Also, thanks for the tip on the shaft bearing; will double check!
     
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    wish you good luck
    but I not think with this sleeve it will be ok. those sleeves I only put on when the seal after long time is run in. but when you not see this I doubt it will not leak after the installing of this sleeve.
     
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    Jim, when you replaced the seal first time, were you able to (clearly) see the condition of the input shaft area it rides on, especially without removal of the front housing ?
    It has been a few years since I last rebuilt or serviced Daytona transaxles, but looking at some of my photos from those occasions, I suspect the installation of a Speedi-Sleeve will require removal of at least the front housing and possibly even the entire input shaft.

    As for the drive shaft center support bearing, I've made its replacement one of those "while you're in there" practices, especially if there's no record of it having been replaced in less than 10-15 years.

    I can still recall a quite severely botched (Daytona) restoration from about 10 years I was asked to take over and finish.
    In 30 or so years prior to this "restoration", the car had been "enjoyed" for estimated 100K+ miles with only occasional oil changes and absolutely minimal amount of maintenance or repairs (i.e. only repairing/replacing something if/when it actually broke or completely wore out, but nothing else) and during the "restoration" its engine had been "rebuilt", but all things mechanical* behind it had been slapped back together without as much as external cleaning of any road grime they had accumulated in past decades, yet, the drive shaft center support bearing, which could've been installed by the factory, didn't "feel" that bad.
    Just goes to show what some people do (or don't) during restorations or for service/maintenance on these cars. This aforementioned poor example had spent five years in 4 different shops before landing on my lap and I could easily fill a book describing the horrors I discovered when sorting it out.

    *Well, they had replaced the clutch, but the flywheel had been turned way too much (too many times ?), the clutch assembly geometry was so out of whack it couldn't be adjusted to actually release, etc.
     

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