The 1972 Ferrari 365 GTC4, some info

So in turn I had to use Google Translate! Hopefully Google caught the spirit of the comments, I think it did.

 

Carlo Tazzioli, what a wonderful gentleman.

 

I met him in the factory in 1984 or 1985. very nice gentleman with a lot of knowledge. will have a look at some photo history in my folders when I have time if I will find some photos.

 

Thankfully French and Italian are close enough to allow to understand short sentences - even though I definitely do not speak Italian.

 

I may be wrong but I do see four seats.
You may want to consult other, better websites.........
(not my photos)

Marcel Massini

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I personally like the plaid seats. Cool. So many were replaced with all leather when "restored". And many repainted in resale red too. Boo.

 

Everybody knows that no adult can really sit in the back of a 365 GTC/4.
Nothing has skipped my attention, I am fully aware of the "nomenclature", no worries, except that some websites are stating b.s.
It just is not a "two seater Coupé". Maybe it is a four-seater Coupé? After all, the pix I posted of 365 GTC/4 interiors show more than two seats.
Nowadays, unfortunately, there are so many people who just blindly trust all websites, like lemmings.
Splitting hairs?

Marcel Massini

 

I trust my eyes, and my eyes see four seats.

 

It‘s a 2+2 seater, like the 911 (also 2+2 in most versions) but, like the 911, it‘s much more a 2-seater coupe
with two emergency seats in the back which could only hardly used as a real seat, perhaps a small kid with a very small adult
in the front seat.

I would have prefered if the GTC/4 has only two seats and a pure luggage compartment in the back like the Daytona.

 

365 GTC/4 had a very short wheelbase for a car with the 2 rear seats at only 2500 mm.

Comparativley:

250 GT/E 2+2 wheelbase = 2600 mm.
250 GT/L wheelbase = 2400 mm.
275 GTB wheelbase = 2400 mm.
330 GT 2+2 wheelbase = 2650 mm.
365 GT 2+2 wheelbase = 2650 mm.
365 GTB/4 wheelbase = 2400 mm.
365 GTC/4 wheelbase = 2500 mm.
The 2+2 successor, the mechanically very similar 365 GT4 2+2 had a 200 mm longer wheelbase at 2700 mm.

Mid engined of course, but even the 2 seater super sports 365 GT4 BB/512BB/512BBi had the same wheelbase of 2500 mm.

 

The longer wheelbase, makes a whole lot of difference in handling compared to a Daytona.
In any car of the same marque, i.e. an AR spider vs a GTV... 10 cm. The handling on a race track is sensational.
Provided it is well braced by a full cage.
Never seen a "Gobbone" on the track. A grand tourer, with great noises.

Regardless, only 'tiny tots' need apply for those rear seats.

 

Marcel has the same experience like many others who has read this website,
it seems that in some details it was be written by a very young trainee without a clue…

 

Sorry to say, but trust in "Offical Ferrari website" is misplaced. They can be very sloppy and careless, and no, I don't wish to enter into a debate.

 

as an aside (pun intended) i've seen both configurations of front seat fold levers - some on the inside and some outside. when i bought mine they were on the inside and was told it was incorrect thus switched seats which better molded into the center console. Any thoughts on which one is correct? Two sets of pix above show inside levers again yet appear to be original.

 

Generally speaking, it doesn't seem to make sense to have the levers on the inside, especially if you found the seats fitting/forming better against the console with the levers on the outside and where one would expect them to be when attempting to gain access to backseat area.

OTOH, I could see someone installing them either accidentally on the wrong sides or on purpose to provide them with even wear.

I just looked at all the photos I took last year when servicing a very nice, original condition, one-owner example, but while I captured dozens upon dozens of detail focused images of engine bay, interior, inside the trunk, out- & underside of the car, for some reason I missed shots showing seat backs or these levers.
I'll probably stop by the cars home in couple of weeks and try to remember to check this detail.