Axial flux motor news from Yasa ( what powers the 296)

https://insideevs.com/news/776572/yasa-axial-flux-motor-new-power-density-record/

 

Interesting. Looks like Temerario, Revuelto, SF90, 849, 296, Regera all powered by Yasa. Urus SE and Cayenne Turbo E-hybrid also powered by Yasa depite not being listed on their web site.

https://yasa.com/automotive/

 

it points to a future where there will be thousands of HP and torque in the size of a small motor like this just constrained by the battery size.

 

It’s called progress. Smaller engines that put out massive power that sound good without lag (annd a perfect torque curve) are difficult and expensive to make and superior to older technologies. And the beat goes on.

 

The design, engineering and build quality and of course performance that Ferrari puts into the 296 is undeniable. The 296 GTB is my first Ferrari and my first super car but I'm no stranger to quality cars from Germany since the early 80's. The quality and workmanship in the Ferrari is leagues ahead to anything coming from the rest of Europe at this time IMO. Oh, and I love the Flux!!

 

does this mean that when someone wants to hot rod their hybrid they will upgrade their e-motor and battery pack?

 

Maker me wonder why the 296 doesn’t have 1000 hp

 

Because the 849TR doesn’t have 1500….

 

I feel like soon this incremental hp mind set has to end because we're reaching the point diminishing return. I haven't driven anything over 1000hp, but the 296 is the first car where I genuinely felt yeah, I'm good, I can't use any more power in the real world. Instead of adding more power, I would prefer the mechanical parts to be less stressed so the car becomes more reliable. I feel that in the 296, the car can do more, but it chose to make 820hp effortlessly. I like that feeling. Mclaren on the other hand, feels like something behind you is going to blow up anytime. Which is also exciting/expensive in a different way.
The draggy times Jo posted, for anything under 200km, how much faster can more hp help without drastic improvement in tire/aero technology? I think to solve that bottleneck, maybe the active aero sucking fan thing in the mcmurtry is the next holy grail? We need to add more normal force down to the ground as the physicist would say.

 

Of course 15 years ago anything over 500hp was considered “too much for the road”
In ten years we’ll be wondering how we got by with 800-1000.
As Einstein and Galileo before him stated “speed is relative”

 

Rationally looking at the trend you would be right, but I distinctly remember ever since my very first super car, a 2009 aston vantage with 420hp. I was so excited about the experience, never really driven anything close to that power level before. I actually remember the acceleration to be underwhelming especially past 60mph. I wished for more power ever since. I sincerely disagreed with everyone who said 500hp was enough. My mclaren at 616hp stock I wished for a bit more, so I had to tune it. But the 296 was the first one I felt that's enough. I think the car finally caught up with my own reaction time to feel under control.

 

Well, combat jet moves and corners at speeds pilots would black out at but technology (G suits) to the rescue. Enabling technology allows them to fit at and hit targets they can’t even see.
It’s happening with cars too- ABS, traction control, slid slip control, managed torque delivery, 4 WS, 4WD, tire technology - makes driving these hypercars doable as I agree the limits are our human limits. But these are just the beginning-there is more and better tech coming to help make us better high performing drivers.

 

I hit 140 mph today in my 765 easily taking off from a stop light, going uphill. in certainly less than a 1/4. Mind you I didn’t launch it as the tires were 65 degrees.

Yes, I’d say the cars today are too quick. But I love it.