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Has anyone torn out the hybrid parts?

Discussion in '296' started by sparetireless, Oct 27, 2025 at 8:00 PM.

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  1. sparetireless

    sparetireless Formula 3

    Nov 2, 2003
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    Apparently, the challenge car has the no hybrid capability has the battery stripped out of it. The auxiliary motors pulled out of it for a weight savings of almost 300 pounds and you don’t have that failure point I would pay extra for 296 with that configuration

    have any aftermarket guys started to think about what it would take to tear the hybrid out of it?
     
  2. gzachary

    gzachary Formula Junior
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    #2 gzachary, Oct 27, 2025 at 8:35 PM
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2025 at 8:54 PM
    The 296 Challenge is not the same basic car as a road going 296. It's made by Michelotto for Ferrari. It is a new car designed specifically by Michelotto as an ICE race vehicle. They don't "tear" the hybrid out as it's not even in the basic Michelotto 296 Challenge car that's delivered. Michelotto has had a decades long relationship with Ferrari for race going vehicles like the F40 LM, etc. This is how it became a 296 Challenge.

    Also, it would be a total disaster to "tear" out the hybrid in road-going Ferrari 296. There is no tearing out of the hybrid parts. The "parts" include software and controllers all built to include hybrid power delivery as part of their active performance. They are everywhere, not just batteries and electrical motors.

    All of the various ECUs, etc plus transmission, exhaust, are set up to include the electrical power interleave. This includes tuning and data feedback going all the way through all the sensors in the exhaust system. Therefore, the ECUs will detect that the system is malfunctioning. The ECUs must be reprogrammed; otherwise, the car will not operate. This only addresses the surface issues. Forget about ever taking this car for service. At best, it will be a hobbled Frankenstein with failure points everywhere. Why do this? It is a fallacy that the hybrid system is a huge failure point. If it was, you would be hearing about all of the failures with SF90s and 296s. And that is not happening.
     
  3. KL runner

    KL runner Formula Junior

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    TCM alone makes this impossible
     
  4. JohnMH

    JohnMH Formula 3

    Jan 28, 2004
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    I am of the opinion that like the manual conversions currently popular for some early F1 shift models or non-fuel cell F40 fuel tanks, when these cars age there will be comprehensive conversion kits made to eliminate the hybrid systems. Any system can fail, but the cost of replacing a vintage Ferrari hybrid system when the car is 15-20 years old will result in a market opportunity.
     
  5. Potentialshock

    Potentialshock Karting

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    Would better off buying a challenge car and making it road legal. There’s at least a 458 challenge road legal registered in UK. It’s within the same ballpark price range as the standard car as well
     
  6. LVP488

    LVP488 F1 Veteran

    Jan 21, 2017
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    After a few years the challenge cars even tend to be less expensive than the road cars, since they become obsolete for racing and there are not many customers for them (most are bought for track days, but it's a niche market).
     

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