FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE LA CIUDAD DE MEXICO 2025.....Race..............▄▀▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS ▄▀▄▀▄▀ | Page 13 | FerrariChat

FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE LA CIUDAD DE MEXICO 2025.....Race..............▄▀▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS ▄▀▄▀▄▀

Discussion in 'F1' started by jgonzalesm6, Oct 25, 2025 at 9:43 PM.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2016
    24,945
    Corpus Christi, Tx.
    Full Name:
    Joe R Gonzales
    Honestly, my phone is acting up. I don't know why. Sorry for the double posts.
     
    TonyL and absostone like this.
  2. TonyL

    TonyL F1 Rookie

    Sep 27, 2007
    4,314
    Norfolk - UK
    Full Name:
    Tony
  3. absostone

    absostone F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jul 28, 2008
    10,284
    Constable Anthony you should contact the FIA with this freeze frame evidence.
     
  4. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2016
    24,945
    Corpus Christi, Tx.
    Full Name:
    Joe R Gonzales
    I don't know how long you have been watching F1 but you will see there are inconsistencies with the stewards.
     
  5. absostone

    absostone F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jul 28, 2008
    10,284
    Yeah site not working well
     
  6. absostone

    absostone F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jul 28, 2008
    10,284
    Understand that Its only an issue because lh is involved
     
  7. TonyL

    TonyL F1 Rookie

    Sep 27, 2007
    4,314
    Norfolk - UK
    Full Name:
    Tony

    Err excuse me... Chief Inspector please
     
    absostone likes this.
  8. TonyL

    TonyL F1 Rookie

    Sep 27, 2007
    4,314
    Norfolk - UK
    Full Name:
    Tony
    I dont like LH either, when he trips up next time i will be just as vocal
     
    absostone likes this.
  9. absostone

    absostone F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jul 28, 2008
    10,284
    LOL thats good!
     
  10. TonyL

    TonyL F1 Rookie

    Sep 27, 2007
    4,314
    Norfolk - UK
    Full Name:
    Tony
    started watching F1 in around 1968 and was inspired by Ferrari winning at silverstone, being 50% Italian i was connected!! Been a regular viewer ever since so seen a lot of antics.

    Stewarding these last 5 years or so have aggrevated these type of situations for the worse, i dont recall so much intervention. I feel its done to spice up the show.
     
    jgonzalesm6 likes this.
  11. TonyL

    TonyL F1 Rookie

    Sep 27, 2007
    4,314
    Norfolk - UK
    Full Name:
    Tony
    i was baiting you to add .....Ins Clouseau;)
     
    absostone likes this.
  12. Tallman1

    Tallman1 Karting

    Aug 26, 2022
    90
    South Africa
    Full Name:
    Leo
    You seem to be confusing breaking earlier with out accelerating. In fact Hamilton out decelerated Max, obviously, as he was going into a corner. Max went straight. He got pushed out on to the sandy patch by Leclerc (who was being squeezed left by Hamilton), and as you may know, braking hard when one side has no grip will spin the car meaning they all go off. So at that stage he had no other option but to NOT hit the brakes and keep the car as straight as possible which meant missing the corner.

    If you remember 2021, Max, Bottas and Lewis were three abreast, and Max went around the outside, which in any case is the better line. So three abreast or even 4 is not a problem if they don’t push each other off.
     
  13. TonyL

    TonyL F1 Rookie

    Sep 27, 2007
    4,314
    Norfolk - UK
    Full Name:
    Tony
    No confusion here, he chose to go that route, nobody forced him, it was a clinical well thought out manouvre and he knew full well he couldnt make the corner and missed his braking point by a mile. Had he turned he would have hurt himself and lost a bagful of points effectively ruling out the 2025 WDC.



    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
    william likes this.
  14. absostone

    absostone F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jul 28, 2008
    10,284
    There was room 1 seconds prior to your pic . He got squeezed off man
     
  15. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2016
    24,945
    Corpus Christi, Tx.
    Full Name:
    Joe R Gonzales
    So a correction. Max didn't miss his braking point by a mile. He going over the "sausage kerbs" which doesn't give him downforce and since 2 of his tires are over the sausage kerbs, Max now is limited to braking distance given his speed. It's possible IF Max started on the soft tire, then he would have had a better start and POSSIBLY been out in front of both Ferrari's (coulda-woulda-shoulda). When Max drifts onto the grass, Max's car control is unbelievable going full wheel lock trying to keep the car pointed in the right direction.
     
    watt likes this.
  16. FatMike

    FatMike Karting

    Jul 4, 2018
    175
    Marco Island, FL and sometimes NJ
    Full Name:
    Mike
    Another view:



    /
     
    kes7u likes this.
  17. SS454

    SS454 Formula 3

    Oct 28, 2021
    2,300
    Full Name:
    Chris S
    you're literally showing a picture of Max having no room from being squeezed. Plus in that pic you can see the plank riding the curb and you can see all the dust from being so dirty, thus very low grip. All that would explain the brake lock up. Max may have planned to go on the outside but that's about it. Either way, he gave his positions back and gained nothing.
     
  18. TonyL

    TonyL F1 Rookie

    Sep 27, 2007
    4,314
    Norfolk - UK
    Full Name:
    Tony
    Yes he did get squeezed a couple secs after this snap, he was never going to make the RH corner from that far LH position.
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  19. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 3, 2006
    28,020

    Trying to pass everybody on the outside by late braking and then cutting across to take the lead.
    Perez tried to pull the same stunt at that spot a couple of years ago, if my memory is correct.
    Would Perez or Vestappen have attempted that move if there was a solid wall on the outside ?
    We all know the answer to that one ...
     
    ktu and jpalmito like this.
  20. TonyL

    TonyL F1 Rookie

    Sep 27, 2007
    4,314
    Norfolk - UK
    Full Name:
    Tony
    #320 TonyL, Oct 28, 2025 at 1:38 PM
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2025 at 1:52 PM
    Perhaps you should consider what track position he should of lost having left the track for over 8 seconds, to return back on track without any loss is unfair in my book
     
  21. TonyL

    TonyL F1 Rookie

    Sep 27, 2007
    4,314
    Norfolk - UK
    Full Name:
    Tony
    Indeed it was 2023, but Perez got pushed into the air as he cut across Leclerc and retired.
     
  22. SS454

    SS454 Formula 3

    Oct 28, 2021
    2,300
    Full Name:
    Chris S
    We don't have to consider anything. He could have crashed the car or damaged the floor by going off track, we've seen it before. He could have tried to keep it on track and taken out half the field. Maybe if he didn't get squeezed he would have made a pass around the outside and had the preferred line in turn 2. Coulda woulda shoulda. I don't see the need to cry about a net gain of zero. Drivers go off track all the time. Are you going to write a letter about why George Russell didn't lose more time by diving bombing Verstappen in Austin? It's the nature of Mexico, especially on lap 1. We see it pretty much every year. You can send your complaints to the FIA to try and get the track changed, but singling out Max is pointless when he fully within the rules.
     
    watt and jgonzalesm6 like this.
  23. TopspeedPT

    TopspeedPT Formula 3

    Jul 6, 2012
    1,126
    Portugal


     
  24. TonyL

    TonyL F1 Rookie

    Sep 27, 2007
    4,314
    Norfolk - UK
    Full Name:
    Tony
    Your adding the coulda shoulda argument not me, he didnt crash and wasnt disadvantaged by the off road excursion.

    Perez tried that move in 2023 and that was 3 abreast and ended up punted out of the race.



    Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
    william likes this.
  25. SS454

    SS454 Formula 3

    Oct 28, 2021
    2,300
    Full Name:
    Chris S
    Again what's your point? If you have a problem with the track in how it allows a bail out (even a risky one), then okay. If Max had cut the grass and claimed the lead and kept it without penalty I would be in full agreement with you. But he didn't. We had a thrilling run down into turn 1 with 4 cars, all 4 cars escaped without damage and fell into line in pretty much in the correct order. Only Charles could be considered out of place as he did gain ahead of Hamilton. I think they sorted themselves out quite well and more importantly, all 4 of the leaders were free to race. What's the problem with that?
     
    Bas and jgonzalesm6 like this.

Share This Page