FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE LA CIUDAD DE MEXICO 2025.....Race..............▄▀▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS ▄▀▄▀▄▀

Now thats dedication!!

 

Be positive, it keeps us occupied until the next race. End of season we can drag up the dirt

 

How could he have possibly slowed down? He was already tried braking to the absolute maximum and locked the brake so it was never going to slow down quicker than the other 3.

If you mean slow down before the brake zone, do you seriously expect drivers to hit the brakes prematurely at top speed while there are cars right behind them?

I see these types of comments all the time. "so and so should have backed out of it before the apex" or "so and so should slow down more to avoid the car ahead". I swear people think driving a race car is like their daily commute on the highway. These drivers are at the absolute limits, when you are braking at 100% you can't just slow down more because you want to. Anyone that has ever been brake checked by some nutbag in front of them on the road at legal speeds will know that can be alarming. Imagine an F1 car getting off the gas or hitting the brakes with their decel rates in front of a guy going 300 kph expecting to hit the brakes at a certain brake market.

 

FA summarize the farce of Lap 1 and no penalty for drivers thinking not making a corner is a 'strategy'.

Fernando Alonso takes aim at FIA with unheard fiery team radio message in Mexico
Fernando Alonso delivers yet again over team radio in Mexico City -- https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1085678/1/fernando-alonso-takes-aim-fia-unheard-fiery-team-radio-message-mexico

Fernando Alonso delivered another memorable series of F1 team radio messages at the Mexico City Grand Prix.

Alonso was forced to retire from Sunday’s race at the Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez as a precaution following brake-related troubles.

The Lap 1 mayhem, which saw several cars cut the first corner, caught the attention of Alonso.

The two-time world champion voiced his complaints over team radio.

“So I had a good start, in front of Sainz and some other people, they miss Turn 2, and they are three cars in front,” he said over team radio.

“I mean, it’s very unfair that I’m in this position, after making the corners, so let’s do something. I think it’s three or four cars.”

Aston Martin confirmed to Alonso that they were “feeding it back and talking”.

That didn’t go down well with Alonso, who replied: “Yeah, but we know that they don’t understand the consequences.”

“If we don’t recover the places, it’s that they don’t understand a thing about racing, and this is simply not possible. That’s simply not possible.”

Alonso’s radio wasn’t broadcast to the public despite his remark.
He added: “I know you’re doing everything you can. It’s because they broadcast it, all the radios that we do, privately, hopefully they broadcast this, and they see it, that Turn 1 and 2.” “I can even see the replay now on the big screen.”

The stewards ultimately took no action over what happened on Lap 1.

Post-race analysis showed that Charles Leclerc’s decision to cut the corner allowed him to stay ahead of Lewis Hamilton.

Max Verstappen was able to maintain position over the Mercedes duo after making a blistering start.

Carlos Sainz cut the corner but sustained damage after contact with Liam Lawson.

With Alonso aware the stewards weren’t taking action, he delivered another hilarious radio message when running close to Sainz.

“Question for the race direction, can I cut the Turn 2 and 3, and pass like they do?” Alonso said. “Or, I stay on track better?”

 

Remember when Alonso lifted early between Turn 5 & 6 and he got a penalty for *checks notes* Russell (who happened to be the first driver behind Max in Mexico) to lose control of his car and got Alonso a 20 second penalty?

And now people want Max to brake (much) earlier than normal....with 15 other cars directly behind him.

That'll go over well once they're done cleaning up.

 

By your own logic, you should not comment. LOL


...and you said he "has the "drivers" knowledge we dont!"

 

Seeing that he couldn't make the corner, Max could have taken the escape road (that's why there is one), and come at a stop at the end, then tried to rejoin the course using the tarmaced zone visible on post #352 (thanks @Bas) at the exit of Turn1 and before Turn2. That would have been the correct way to repair his mistake, but that would have cost him a few seconds to manoeuver and some places. Instead he took the option open to him to "grass-track" his exit, and rejoin the field like if nothing ever happend, just giving up one spot for good measure.

People have different opinions on the matter, I accept that, and Max wasn't the only one. The standard of driving was absolutely abysmal at Mexico, but not an exception unfortunately.

 

we are talking F1......right or club racing?

 

What do you do if two f1 drivers disagree? LOL

I know there is an indycar driver on here sometimes. Can he comment? What about IMSA drivers?

Do you see how weak your argument is yet or shall I continue?

 

I didnt see anyone else on the kerb behind him?

He could of braked here and stopped within 50m.




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Please continue, when you get in too deep stop digging

 

LOL

The reason he is so far ahead in that pic is because everyone else had already begun breaking and he couldn't effectively because he was high centered on the curb - where Charles put him. If you watch in real time, it is obvious he could no longer make the corner.

The Merc never got on the curb, because no one pushed the Merc out there...hard to follow I know.

 

Nah I'm good; you look like a fool.

 

Better to remain silent ..........I'll let you fill in the rest.

 

Make sure to tell all the F1 stewards with no F1 experience that they need to check with Brundle since they aren't qualified. LOLOLOLOL

 

Right.....if you say so, the car looks like its on the track from that pic, factor in that lifting off gives a massive deceleration. He could have stopped on the run off area. i.e. the black tarmac. It was never his intention

 

Dont the F1 stewards at each GP have a F! driver to consult on such matters?

 

If you watch it in real time and don't just cherry pick a weird screenshot to try to win an argument, he *is* braking on the curb. The tires are not fully loaded though. You will see smoke from his left front locking - again because he is high centered on the curb. You have to release some pressure, or you will accelerate with the tire locked, not decelerate. By the time he regains traction, after the curb, Lando, Charles, and Ham have already turned in. He turns a second later, way outside, and has zero chance to make the turn.

 

That's what I said. For me, not stopping in the run off area, but taking immediatly to the grass to rejoin the course was deliberate. I don't even see how that can be contested.

 

Bro, I know ya'll think Max is everything but you going too far now man.

 

So to play devil's advocate. Let's say he takes the escape road and rejoins in 5th or greater. Does Leclerc get a penalty now for not allowing a car width and forcing him outside the track in the braking zone? This is the problem with over regulation. He was basically tied in 2/3/4 with Ham and Charles going into the braking zone. Charles pushed him off - nice move btw. He rejoins in 3rd, and gives it back and takes 4th. They resolved it on their own. No penalty.

 

Sounds like you don't know anything about driving a formula car. Bro.

 

The fact that you think they need to phone an F1 driver to understand shows you don't know what you're talking about. The teams may give feedback to try to influence their decision. Most of the teams of stewards have at least one driver with extensive driving experience in the series you say don't qualify them to give an opinion. You are literally saying multi-time Le Mans winners can't opine on F1. It's beyond absurd.

 

Show me where a car accelerates when locked up. I know RB has had some tricky devices on the car, but this is crazy.

 

If you watch it in real time and don't just cherry pick a weird screenshot to try to win an argument, he *is* braking on the curb

Who drove on the kerb & took that route.

The tires are not fully loaded though. You will see smoke from his left front locking - again because he is high centered on the curb. You have to release some pressure, or you will accelerate with the tire locked, not decelerate.

Thats dust and the plank rapidly wearing down! Drag and friction (plank to concrete) would slow him down if he lifted off the gas!.

By the time he regains traction, after the curb, Lando, Charles, and Ham have already turned in. He turns a second later, way outside, and has zero chance to make the turn.

Hence the run off area to help him stop, he didnt lose his brakes. He could then turnaround and go to the back of the pack, if that was the only option he would not have done that manouvre in the first place.
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