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430 Scuderia Carbon Brake Upgrade

Discussion in '360/430' started by gammi, Nov 1, 2025 at 3:00 PM.

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  1. gammi

    gammi Karting

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    Thought I'd start this because I've been pretty disappointed with the Scuderia's braking. I have a GT4 as well and that absolutely embarrasses the scud, braking is truly the only weak point of the scud in my opinion. There's just very little bite on the scud, I can't dive into corners like I can with the GT4.

    I thought perhaps it was the factory brake lines expanding that causes the poor pedal feel, but it was still poor after switching to new stainless steel lines.

    So here I am, planning on changing the rotors and pads. The OEM rotors basically disintegrate on track, I'd rather just put them away in a box for safe keeping. I'm surprised I can't find many (or any?) people who have swapped the 1st gen Brembo CCM rotors on the scud for the much improved Surface Transform rotors. Anyone here have experience with them? Specifically I'm interested in how the bite was with Pagid RSC2 or Endless W007 pads, those seem to be the best. I think I may prefer the Endless pads since they don't have metal rivets like the Pagid do. They concern me that they will damage the rotors once worn more than 50%.

    Also, I was considering getting CTE rotors. Their parent company has been around for a couple decades and they are the OEM carbon rotor supplier for some notable brands so it seems I can trust them. They use basically the same long thread carbon manufacturing process as ST but with even higher rated T700 carbon instead of T300 (T700 has 39% greater tensile strength). Plus a full set is about $6K cheaper from CTE. From my reading both the STs and CTEs run about 150F cooler than the Brembo CCMs which means they don't oxidize/disintegrate like the CCMs and pads last longer too. Also the long fiber rotors don't flake off like the short fiber CCM Brembos and they can be resurfaced many times.

    And no, before anyone suggests it, I don't want to convert to iron GiroDiscs haha.
    Appreciate any experience/research anyone has to share before I go ahead and order CTE rotors + Endless W007 pads, thanks!
     

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