That's right, they're claiming the front of the 849 is a futuristic departure from the 308. As we can see in the images, the only thing the fronts of the 849 and the 308 have in common is the departure, because the arrival shows us two incomparable realities. Carlo Palazzani is from the same school as Flavio Manzoni; we all see that the king has no clothes, but they, with their rhetoric, try to convince us otherwise, and they succeed in doing so with the less cautious. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I'm commenting on the above only as a defense of something I said the day the 849 debuted. I stated that looking at it straight-on reminded me of a 288 GTO (obviously, similar to a 308). Also, as a former owner of a 308, I do see the resemblance. It's reminiscent more than it is a heavy-handed copy, but I am reminded of those cars.
The 849 looks so much better than the 308 and I don’t necessarily think the 849 front looks that good. The 849 has such a cool vibe of retro styling design, I am really liking it aside of few elements, not a big fan of the protruded sections under the front lights and the winglets on the AF I think look terrible.
So a car for driving, not for collecting? That means high production numbers and high depreciation. It's okay for collectors, there is the 812 Competizione and icona cars.
Hey, freak, real Ferrari customers go to presentations of real cars, not judge their appearance by the crappy pictures you've been posting here for years. I can't figure out if you're an obsessive hater or just mentally disturbed?
In the latest years the´ve turned to a 70s look so the comparison with the 308 front is not out of place. You may like it or not, but if you can´t see it then it´s you who is naked.
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Manzoni and his team including Andrea Militello are crazy like a fox. Or is it crazy like a lupo? To the Ferrari Stylo Centrale team --In bocca a lupo! ( The reply: "Crepi ! ")
That's probably right. Unlike Flavio Manzoni and others like him who are artistically enlightened and therefore able to see all these subtle similarities with crystal clarity, I am part of those who do not have this ability and therefore can only see what is obvious. I clearly see an SP2 inspired by the 166M, 750 Monza and 860 Monza, and the same happens with the SP3 in relation to the 330P3, 330P4, 512 S and 512 M. In the case of the 12C, it is also evident to me that it is retro-inspired by the Daytona. In the 296, I can also discern traces of the 250 LM. As for the 849, I confess I can't see anything that relates it to the previous Testarossa , although I can discern clues of the 512 M in its profile.
Does the 849 have to look like the 512 TR to be a legitimate TR? I see zero visual similarities between the first two Testa Rossa models.
I agree however with this car they advertised that it was a nod to the 512S and made part of it aesthetically similar to the 512S and then called it a TR. That confuses people in a way that’s annoying. Now they claim that the front is styled after a 308 which there is absolutely zero similarity to. The concept itself is not bad however in their usual fashion let down by poorly chosen details.
Straight on from the front it’s not bad looking but from the side the front looks like a giant pooper scooper for the road and those with chihuahuas should beware
Speaking of Chihuahuas, wasn’t there some complaint about the SP3 having these big intakes in which one could lose his wallet or a small dog? So, maybe carrying on that tradition?
The 849 IMO doesn't have to look like the 512 TR to be a legitimate TR. However, apparently there is a story behind the use of the name Testarossa on the 849. In 2015, Ferrari saw its rights to using the Testarossa name annulled by the European Intellectual Property Office and the argument was the absence of real use of the name for more than five years. The request for annulment was brought by a German businessman, Kurt Hesse, active in toys and miniature cars. According to the law, in the absence of production of a model bearing the name, Ferrari no longer had any reason to retain it. Therefore, the name Testarossa became legally free. Ferrari struck back and after a long legal battle, the decision was finally overturned in 2025 by the European Court of First Instance. Ferrari got its rights back, but it knew it had to secure its future. A few weeks before the 849 launch, Ferrari registered a new trademark 849 Testarossa and the name is now protected until 2035, in both Europe and America. If Ferrari had lost this battle the car we know today as the 849 Testarossa would have had to settle for another name. However, the question that remains is whether Ferrari named this model Testarossa just to protect its rights to using the Testarossa name.
Since design is often polarizing, it will be interesting to see the next wave which will follow. Will we see a face at the front? Will more feminine curves define the body. Or will more angular geometric shapes be used, instead of black trim accents.
I don't think many Ferrari designs from, say, 1995 through 2023 were particularly polarizing. Perhaps the Enzo at launch and the FF/Lusso? All the designs from that period had critics and nitpickers, but that doesn't make them polarizing. Polarizing implies strong and extensive negative reactions (along with strong and extensive positive reactions). To me that's the issue with the current design language. It is polarizing. And I disagree that this is an unavoidable outcome of good design. In fact, I tend to think the opposite, at least in the context of Ferrari. I, for one, hope to see more curves and fewer flat surfaces and sharp angles. And an end to the black trim.
Ordering one - most exciting regular model car ever seen and performance will be there too. Then again I love SF90 Spider that allowed an XX - history will hopefully repeat itself.
