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  1. SoCal to az

    SoCal to az F1 World Champ
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    Nov 25, 2012
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    Lando had 2 races he did not finish.
    He crashed in Montreal (his fault)
    His PU died in another race- (not his fault)

    If he would have just finished those races in the top 5- it wouldnt even be as close as it is. People love to hate on Lando but he is the better driver over Oscar.
     
  2. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Eight Time F1 World Champ
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    All the talk of preference…even sabotage…has probably got into his head. Or maybe he’s the one with the superior car at the beginning of the season. Plus, people don’t seem to recognize that Norris’s form has improved. It isn’t all down to the cars.
     
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  3. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Yes the team is babying Lando, but that shouldn't shake Piastri; yet it does. He is fragile and flying off the track twice without anybody touching him is truly poor form.
     
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  4. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    Seasoned championship contenders recognize you have to put together a whole season. Not just a portions of it.
     
  5. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    ask Fat Brown.
     
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  6. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    Another boring sprint race...Hamilton made a nice start; Charles did what he could.

    Most exciting part was Bortoletto turning his car into a canoe.
     
  7. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    Really? Can you give me some examples?

    He made an amateur mistake there, and has been making them repeatedly recently.
     
  8. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    Racing is hard as hell?
     
  9. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Early in the season Lando couldn't get on with the car and Mclaren developed a different front suspension for him to get better feel. Piastri stuck with the old one. It's not too far fetched a theory that the last set of upgrades works better with this suspension than the old one. That said, the new suspension has been available to Piastri as well and if he doesn't use it because he either doesn't like it or doesn't want to...it's a limitation on his own part.

    I think it's also just as likely that Piastri looked at some reasonably questionable directives from Mclaren over the whole season (dictating when Piastri is allowed to attack or not, giving up positions), and Singapore being the final straw and he's lost confidence in the team supporting him. But that's on Piastri being unable to deal with it.

    The decisions Mclaren have made that seemingly all favoured Lando I find questionable to say the least. Zak Brown being CEO and Director of Norris' company is surely a conflict of interest (he resigned in July after the company got sold), Norris' dad being a heavy investor in Mclaren and the partnership that Mclaren has with Norris' dads company. I do believe that Mclaren prefers Norris to be champion (despite their claim that they don't prefer either driver or indeed apparently even care if they win the drivers title, which is pure nonsense of course), but Piastri has done so much damage himself in the last few races, the need for any theory doesn't even need to be discussed anymore.

    Webber for all his talk about Multi 21 and preventing similar scenarios clearly didn't manage that part well either, if you ask me.
     

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