My 69 365 GTS [factory restored] | FerrariChat

My 69 365 GTS [factory restored]

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Puro, Nov 3, 2025.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. Puro

    Puro Formula Junior

    Sep 15, 2022
    502
    #1 Puro, Nov 3, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2025
    [
     

    Attached Files:

    swift53, LVP488, SCantera and 9 others like this.
  2. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    10,855
    Cardiff, UK
    Full Name:
    Steven Robertson
    Maciek, stevenwk and tritone like this.
  3. ragtop1

    ragtop1 F1 Veteran
    Silver Subscribed

    Nov 11, 2006
    5,279
    Ontario
    Full Name:
    Larry Warren
    Fantastic! I'd love to see some more images, especially of the fresh engine bay.
     
    Puro likes this.
  4. Puro

    Puro Formula Junior

    Sep 15, 2022
    502
    Christian.Fr, Juli, redfred84 and 4 others like this.
  5. Maciek

    Maciek Karting
    Silver Subscribed

    Jan 20, 2007
    214
    Poland
    Full Name:
    Maciek N
    miurasv, readplays and ryalex like this.
  6. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    10,855
    Cardiff, UK
    Full Name:
    Steven Robertson
    #12243.
     
    readplays likes this.
  7. ryalex

    ryalex Two Time F1 World Champ
    Consultant Owner

    Aug 6, 2003
    26,312
    Las Vegas, NV
    Full Name:
    Ryan Alexander
    Wow! A dream.
     
  8. Puro

    Puro Formula Junior

    Sep 15, 2022
    502
    12163 | Custom body work.
    Exactly where that photo was taken.
     
    ryalex likes this.
  9. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    10,855
    Cardiff, UK
    Full Name:
    Steven Robertson
    The Ferrari factory restored 365 GTS #12163 with custom bodywork/without the bonnet/hood vents?
     
  10. Puro

    Puro Formula Junior

    Sep 15, 2022
    502
    Ferrari will do anything if you pay for it. Including adding additional/hidden ventilation if you prefer a smooth hood.
     
  11. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    10,855
    Cardiff, UK
    Full Name:
    Steven Robertson
    #11 miurasv, Nov 6, 2025 at 11:07 PM
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2025 at 11:25 PM
    I have not heard of this previously. May I ask where is the additional hidden ventilation for it to have the smooth hood? Is it Ferrari Red Book Classiche Certified with the additional hidden ventilation and without the hood/bonnet vents?
     
  12. Maciek

    Maciek Karting
    Silver Subscribed

    Jan 20, 2007
    214
    Poland
    Full Name:
    Maciek N
    Which year did you attend the concorso?

    The stickers on windshield confirms that the car passed scrutineering for judging in its class, but I failed to find it on entrants list in previous years.

    https://concorsodeleganzavilladeste.com
     
  13. nico308

    nico308 Formula Junior

    Dec 11, 2011
    492
    Are you sur this is 12163 (the Avorio 365 GTS )and not 12243 like stated by miurasv ? 365 GTS Spyder s/n 12243
     
  14. DWR46

    DWR46 Formula 3
    Honorary

    Jun 19, 2012
    2,074
    Something about this thread, and the "factory" restoration does not add up. Way too many errors in the engine bay alone, along with the missing hood vents.
     
    stevenwk, Bryanp and SCantera like this.
  15. SCantera

    SCantera F1 Veteran
    Silver Subscribed

    Aug 4, 2004
    5,958
    Living Falls NC
    Reminds me of the nice GTC in Naples FL that had both the 330 side vents and the 365 hood vents. It was up for auction but failed to sell.
     
  16. Puro

    Puro Formula Junior

    Sep 15, 2022
    502
    Technically only the motor was done at Ferrari/Maranello [the original engine was damaged] and the rest done stateside.
     
  17. JAM1

    JAM1 F1 Veteran
    Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 22, 2004
    8,843
    FL, NY, and MA
    Full Name:
    Joe
    “Technically”. :rolleyes:
     
  18. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    10,855
    Cardiff, UK
    Full Name:
    Steven Robertson
    #18 miurasv, Nov 7, 2025 at 9:49 PM
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2025 at 10:08 PM
    The above is not true.

    So the car was not "factory restored" at all, as you stated in the title of this thread. If this really is chassis #12163, from reading previous auction descriptions, it is only with a Ferrari Classiche supplied replacement tipo 245 engine, and has been further restored incorrectly without the bonnet/hood vents.
     
  19. Maciek

    Maciek Karting
    Silver Subscribed

    Jan 20, 2007
    214
    Poland
    Full Name:
    Maciek N
    In my opinion, the picture in post #1 was heavily modified.
    1. The watermark suggests that this picture comes from a specific website (ultimate***page(dot)com) where only a handful of pictures of the 365 GTS are available. Among them there are several photos of the 365 GTS #12243 from 2011 Concorso d'Eleganza Villa d'Este.
    2. Look at the stickers on the windshield — their positions are identical in both pictures, which is another reason to believe that the car in the picture is in fact #12243. Moreover, no other example of the 365 GTS has been recently entered for the Concours.
    3. The bench in the background was edited out and replaced with bricks covered with some kind of mold.

    On top of that, there is also a lack of hood vents, as mentioned earlier.


    Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
    Bryanp, montagna, 365GTC/4 and 3 others like this.
  20. fiatosca

    fiatosca Formula Junior

    Feb 20, 2013
    422
    Bloomfield Hills, MI
    Full Name:
    Bob B
    Also seats have no pleats
     
    John Garcia likes this.
  21. montagna

    montagna Rookie

    Mar 14, 2014
    18
    Phoenix, Arizona, USA
    Full Name:
    Ross
    In addition to the inconsistencies noted above, the photos have a Gemini AI watermark in the lower right corner (looks like a transparent white diamond). At the very least these images were "retouched" by AI, more likely entirely generated from a very small set of training data including the original photo posted above.

    The barrier to creating high quality, completely falsified images is lower than ever. The unfortunate thing is that it is now much faster for a fraud to create such an image than it is for a knowledgeable historian to refute it. While our interest and industry may be niche relative to the rest of humanity, we won't escape the flood of AI generated image slop- it's just too easy to make and there are too many reasons for unscrupulous or thoughtless people to make it. For serious historians, restorers and other vintage car professionals, having access to trusted pre-2023 stores of image references will become more and more important as junk like this becomes commonplace.

    So OP, why are you doing this?
     
  22. Birel

    Birel Formula 3

    Sep 12, 2005
    1,961
    Brisbane
    Full Name:
    Andrew Turner
    Shocking and inexplicable !
     
    turbo-joe and readplays like this.
  23. ryalex

    ryalex Two Time F1 World Champ
    Consultant Owner

    Aug 6, 2003
    26,312
    Las Vegas, NV
    Full Name:
    Ryan Alexander

Share This Page