Im fairly sure the car comes standard with the Multimatic suspension which does not have a lifter nor does it have bumpy road mode. If you want those things you have to choose the “lifter” suspension. This is the magnaride suspension. They have supposedly retuned both of these over the choices on the standard 296. I am likely to go with the lifter suspension as where I live the lifter is useful as is the bumpy road mode, and as I am completely happy with the same suspension on my 296 GTS, I figure that they will have retuned it on the Speciale, will make it that much more sporty. So it’s already an upgrade. However, there is 1% of my mind which says- go for the super sporty one!
I have driven a GTB and own currently an AF coupe. For my personal circumstances and my love of the AF multimatics and handling/dynamics it is a decision I am happy with. 1% of me says to get the lift and magneride.
I generally agree, but, there is always someone who wants the even more sporty setup. I think most people will order the magnaride suspension, and thus, the Multimatic will be far fewer on the eventual market place, thus, while its a smaller pool of potential buyers, it will also be a smaller pool of potential sellers, and I think it won’t have a tremendous affect on resale values of those cars. It likely does affect the time to find your eventual buyer in the unlikely circumstance that you have convinced yourself to part ways with this new beauty. On the CF engine covers, I think if they are offering it, they have worked out the heat issues. A long time ago there was an issue with the 430 Scuderia, the carbon inside the engine bay was discoloring, and the factory did a campaign to replace a metal heat shield and the affected carbon bits.
We have two different experiences - not just on a Ferrari GPF I've done it on others with no issue, Really don't want to argue what I post from experience.
Ferrari's policy (that they pass to their dealers) has changed a lot - basically now all non OEM parts are flagged, even outside of warranty. It was totally different a couple of decades ago.
This is not my experience. I had no issue whatsoever this year with my dealer installing aftermarket exhaust on my 812 GTS. I'm in the US. I bought this car brand new from them and it is under warranty.
Maybe the US being more far away from Italy than European countries, dealers have more freedom from Ferrari HQ
I talked to my service manager about this before hand. They've never seen a warranty claim denial based on catback exhaust mods.
Magnus Moss warranty act - again your experience must be different but you won't say it or you haven't experienced it. You just keep typing the same claim - go for it - share your experience. Car dealer modification etc - go .... Lambo Porsche Dodge Ferrari Aston Bentley - all supplied / installed an exhaust at the dealership. Only one I didn't is Mac but the dealer did offer it.
I’d be very interested in tossing an exhaust on my 296 if it didn’t impact my warranty. There are some really good options.
Think about it - if this was an issue they would lock out an exhaust modification. It's like saying - you change your own oil and battery and they deny warranty - the idea of modifying something voids a warranty just because is not rational esp when you purchase and install at dealer.
There are plenty of posts in the forums on FCHAT explaining the physics regarding the GPF filters and the accompanying problems if one doesn’t reprogram the ICU when changing the exhaust (check posts from Marinelloalltheway). My understanding- it is a time-bomb- because of the periodic heat/ cleaning cycle). For cars that are hardly driven- nothing will probably happen. Is this a road worth traveling? That’s up to you. Caveat emptor. And yes- per laws in the USA if the warranty issue is not related to the modification the warranty must be honored. And do you really want to litigate with Ferrari and deal with the fallout? These are $300- $600k cars. Do you want an expensive headache on something that provides pleasure? That’s an individual call. It’s your money…
There’s one widely reported on the internet regarding an 812GTS. My service manager specifically stated it will void the warranty.
You keep saying Ferrari - I don't buy a car from Ferrari, I buy from the dealer who buys from FNA. There is a massive difference in reality - an exhaust if it hurts the engine, I would go after the one who claimed it would not, yes it's a risk anytime someone works on a car - it's fun and sh$t happens. Installed a Full Capristo on 16M - it went bad years later - called Capristo order some new parts - they sent a 19k brand new system and said keep the told one. Exhaust has its own warranty in the USA - it's a whole thing and 430's had a known defect breaking the xhuast - anyway, I don't think you realize how important it is to the after market exhaust people - they wouldn't be in business if their exhaust was detrimental to the car. When people post with zero experience - take it as worthless, Dealers treat their customers very well - question is when does someone stop being a customer - posting a bad situation here is a really BAD idea. There is a reason those feedback scores are important to every car dealer - that score represents rebate profits. Warranty is a business in of itself - won't go into it but the dealer has a LOT of control and incentive to take care of their customers. It's all about the relationship not the situation. People buy used Ferrari's that were modified out of town then want their dealer to warranty it - there are two sides to every story - you only hear one on this forum
Sir- you buy the car from the dealer- the warranty comes from the manufacturer- one which does not want you modifying their cars.
Below are comments from Marinelloalltheway regarding an 812GTS. I presume the 296 is even more complicated because it adds the hybrid battery. “GPF/OPF based cars have far too many electronics that are more sophisticated than standard catalytic converter cars. While in practice, US doesnt monitor the effectiveness of these filters, there is no way to disable them because their functionality is directly integrated with how the ECU controls the fueling of the car among other things. The back pressure with GPF cars is completely different. Removing those bricks will immediately throw the car into chaos. I dont care what some tuner shop says, I wouldnt do it without a proper ECU tune that properly calibrate all ECU tables. With the above, one can conclude that there is no way to get around a CEL in the way one would naively think. You may as well take a black plastic tape and tape over the CEL symbol on your dash because that Novitec dongle does exactly that. Lastly, if you plan to keep the car beyond the initial emission test coverage (each state is different) and that you will take your car to a state emission facility, your car will NOT pass the emission test. This is not a Ferrari thing. Its a car with a catalytic converter thing and applies to every car. With some cars you get lucky and the car by itself passes the emission tests using 200 CEL cats but some dont.” “‘If you have a car with GPF, every now and then will run a cycle to clean out the GPF, which involves running the mix very rich and getting things in the system very hot to burn off the buildup on the GPF. If you remove the GPF - which I think this setup does, unless they replace the GPF with another- then you may end up causing other damage. I would not be making changes without also adjusting the other side of the equation, which is the ECU. Likely you would have to tune your 812 GTS if you are touching the particulate filters and catalytic converters. The change will impact back pressure causing the car to run too lean. N/A engine like the V12 with such high compression ratios may not like running that lean for that long.”
In Europe, you lose your warranty if you modify the exhaust system. Furthermore, no official Ferrari dealer will install an aftermarket exhaust system, such as one from Novitec.
I know my 458 Speciale didn't have the lifter (not sure if it was an option back then) - I am 50/50 re multimatics and as I will keep the car "indefinitely" - this might tip me the one way. Our roads are really cr$p but thats what plastic skid plates are for
Neither for me in Europe, late 812 with an OPF. Called multiple official dealers and they refuse to make changes to the exhaust, even if just valve control. They say it will mess up the system due to the car being fitted with OPF. I trust their judgement! They didn’t mention warranty, they just said it is asking for trouble on an OPF car, so they didn’t do it. I know they do install aftermarket exhausts on non-OPF cars. Was only looking for a valve control as I had it on my F12, but the 812 sound with OPF is still great anyway. That being said, judging from the recent videos I think the 296 Speciale will have a pretty good sound experience! Will always start in qualifying mode when hot ofc!
