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  1. ART360

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    From what I can see TACP was formed after 1994. You say you were in training, but you never said you completed it or served in war time. What were the medals for? Kerry got his under enemy fire. Since you didn't serve in war time, what did you do to earn them?

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  2. ATBNM3

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    That's a good point you NEVER hear of the TACP (Tactical Air Control Party) or Para rescue. You don't here of them because what they do is secret and there is very little information that is released publicly about them. Have you ever watched a guided bomb hit is target? Well at the other end there is a guy hold a target designator painting it. That guy would be in the TACP. Have you ever watched the movie Clear and Present Danger? That would be TACP. There are a lot more also just look up Air Force Special Forces or better yet here’s a direct website http://www.specwarnet.com/americas/usaf.htm. What’s funny is that Navy Seals, Green Berea’s, and Marine Recon all cross train to become USAF SpecOps because it is regarded as the MOST ELITE SPEC FORCE.
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  3. ATBNM3

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    I keep proving you wrong at every turn and just like the rest of the Lib's you keep making personal attacks. What does it matter I EARNED them.
     
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    Right on.. you tell them! That is the common tactic used by the liberals.
     
  5. ATBNM3

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    We are way off subject here. My point is Freedom isn't Free never has been never will be. This is why I stay out of these threads.
     
  6. ART360

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    You never siad you made the grade. Did you or didn't you?

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  7. gabriel

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    Don't stay out. I agree; the libs are a pathetic bunch, but they vote, and as you say, freedom isn't free. Fight the good fight. :)
     
  8. ATBNM3

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    Stay off issues just attack the person said the DNC. Yes I earned them as I said earlier. I had received more that I showed but I would have to keep searching. But my Military service is not the issue. I'm a private citizen and intend on keeping it that way. The issue is not even President Bush or John Kerry. The Issue is if we are safe and if not are we taking the right actions to become so. I think no we are not safe and yes we are going the right way about it to becoming safer.

    The Dems have no solutions to any problems. All they do is attack but as usual they don’t offer up any idea’s to improve or make the situation better. The UN suggestion is ludicrous. No offenses to any one but the Europeans haven’t been able to protect them selves for the last 100 years. Even more a lot of them had personal interest in Saddam staying in power. No one is going to look out for America but Americans. These other countries have the own interest and agendas and the well being of the US of America frankly isn’t one of them.
     
  9. Texas Forever

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    Sir, I salute you for your service.

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  10. ATBNM3

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    Thank you for yor support. But as you can see I have been targeted and it's not a debate over issues anymore. It's now over my Military service even though they don't even know me.
     
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    The pics aren't showing on this computer, I'll check again later when I get home. I'd like to know what you consider "earning them". I have 5 medals so far, and every year it gets easier to "earn" more. There's medals for everything. National Defense - just for being in during Gulf War I, Good Conduct- for staying out of trouble for 3 years, Marksman- good shot with a gun, Expeditionary- for going on a deployment >90 days.

    I wouldn't say those are really much to "earn".

    As far as the liberals having no ideas, that's the typical response to the conservatives that have bad ideas.
     
  12. gabriel

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    Unbelievable attack on someone you don't know, with knowledge you don't have. :(
     
  13. ATBNM3

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    This is typical. This the same tactic the DNC is taking with President Bush. They avoid the issue and make personal attacks it should be the DNC creed. I even tried getting the thread back on issue to no avail. Which is the reason I shouldn't have started anyway.
     
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    Is it an attack to question a person? Since when has trying to see if a person is full of it attacking? This guy sounds like the brother of this guy:

    http://www.auburnpub.com/articles/2...w/ourview01.txt

    If we get attacked around election time does that mean that the war on terrorism is failing? And can we still blame Clinton if it happens? What if Bush gets re-elected and an attack happens, who will there be to blame then? Clearly if Kerry gets elected and we get attacked it would be Kerry's fault, along with all those god hating, gay marrying liberals.

    People like to say that we're all being so vigilant, and that's why terrorist aren't getting to us. I think it's because terrorists are so far away, the ocean around us provides a lot of safety. If terrorists hardly tried they could come into the country w/o a problem. Mexicans do it all the time. Libertarians, Republicans and Democrats are all afraid to really fortify the borders. Polls say majority of Americans are for it, but yet it will never happen, the fear of losing votes is just too great.
     
  15. ATBNM3

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    This is something we agree on. As I mention before there have been Muslim pray blankets found on the border. They are getting into the country and right now we are powerless to stop them from crossing the southern border. That's why I have some fear as we get close to election day. These terrorist being very politically savvy might try the same thing here as they did in Spain.

    We saw President Bush's Military record on the news for 2 week just recently that was brought up by the DNC. When some outside comments were made about Kerry he blamed Bush (who had nothing to do with it) for questioning his patriotism. The fact is he did protest America and Vietnam. The fact is he does not have any medals (for valor or not) that he had received during his time of service. This makes it very easy to conclude he was not proud of serving our Country.
    My Military service is a mute point. I am proud for serving my Country in the US Air Force.
     
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    atbnm3, so you've now met randall. never mind him, he has been sailing a desk in hawaii for a while and evidently quite bitter about it. over the last 2 years he has disparaged anything and everything about our country and military, and yet he's happy enough to collect the paycheck from uncle sam. don't bother responding to him, it is a waste of time.
     
  18. ART360

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    I've offered solutions, and then personal attacks started. I always like to see who I'm debating. This guy, after his posts, came across to me as some sort of delusional war hero. The branch of the service he claims he trained for was started in 1994. See the site which he lists in one of his posts. That means that we had no war pending while he was in, at least as far as I can tell. It's easy to play the military game, get the "medals" and pretend to be a hero. It's easy to pretend, we've had more than a few on this board. Just remember that research has shown that when in combat, about 10 - 20% of the troops do that actual work.

    Just remember that our current President, and his little buddy, Mr. Rove, just way before the primary in Virginia in 2000, sent b/s mailing to the republican base, claiming that John McCain was essentially a traitor, because he allegedly cooperated with the viet cong, while in prison. That little piece of their insight tells it all about them: lie to win, lie to win, don't care about who, don't care about what. I don't like McCain's politics, but I greatly admire the man, and that behavior was beyond words.
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    Jeez I quit posting and I'm still under attack.
     
  21. ART360

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    Doesn't look like you quit to me.

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    But it sure looks like he's quit answering questions regarding his service. And where'd the pics of his medals go? Maybe he has to go find some to post, since it's likely his were the token medals everyone gets.
     
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    Every time I sit down and read these threads the only conclusion I can come to is that amongst the good ol' USA there are some pretty spooky people. Your patriotism at the cost of all others is disturbing. Prior to Sept 11 wasn't the largest terrorist attack actually from an American against your own government?
     
  24. WJHMH

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    I've stayed out of this thread for too long. When you live as well as America does (and America lives very, very well), you have to protect it and you have to deal with the fact that there’s millions of people all over the world who don’t have a fraction of what the average American has. From material possessions to basic freedoms, America is the rockstar nation.

    I think the American media should stop the "Boy are we surprised!" type of reportage after 9/11. Wake the f*ck up. America, you’re hated. Terrorism happens all over the world all the time. I heard someone say on CNN the other day, "America used to be the world. Now America is part of the world."
     
  25. Bertus

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    As we know
    There are known knows
    There are things we know we know
    We also know
    There are known unknowns
    That is to say
    We know there are some things
    we do not know
    But there are also unknown unknowns
    The ones we don't know
    We don' know"
     

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