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Drifting Ferraris

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by triXXXter, Mar 26, 2004.

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  1. triXXXter

    triXXXter Formula Junior

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    Curious. With Drifting becoming more popular here in the states, is anyone using their Ferraris to enter drift contests? Any pics vids?
     
  2. Auraraptor

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    It seems to be more of a younger fad.
     
  3. ATBNM3

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    There was an F40 in Okinawa that would come out drifting with us on the occasion. He would push just as hard as the rest of us.
     
  4. Auraraptor

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    Don, now that is pretty cool.
     
  5. matkat

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    Excuse my Scottish ignorance what is "Drifting"?
     
  6. 96impalaSS

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    It's when you come around a cornor with your rear end slidding the whole time.
     
  7. matkat

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    Thanks Chris
     
  8. W00dEar

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    Kick the tail out, counter steer it, car goes side ways towards right direction.
    you can try to play racing game like Gran Turismo 3 to experience it :)
     
  9. billh

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    Drifting is when a car exhibits oversteer through a turn. The younger crowd is taking this "cool" display and are turning it into a sport in itself.

    I dont know how the sport works or whether it is a race for time or position. I have just seen it on Television being reported on as a new Fad over here in the US. I am told it is quite popular in in Japan.
     
  10. jimangle

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    I think it's judged by who can keep their car sideways the longest around a particular turn.
     
  11. chaa

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    I drift on my 1300 Suzuki Hayabusa, not tried it in me F car.
     
  12. Varenne

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    I think the whole drifting thing is becoming more popular as the general popularity of WRC racing increases worldwide in general

    Anyway, in WRC racing, these guys generally drift their way through sharp turns and as TV (SpeedTV in the US) has continued to increasing their programming, more and more people have turned to WRC racing and that's why I think drifting has really become popular over here.

    (as an offshoot of that, did anyone see the ice racing on SpeedChannel a week or so ago. One of the racers there was an ex F1 driver - a Brit, I think - the name escapes me at the moment.)
     
  13. Wolfgang

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    Hi Dave,
    I see this is all too complicated;)
    Lets try this one:
    When you come back from your drive out and you can count more fly`s on your side window than on the windshield - thats well done drifting:D
     
  14. TigerAce

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    Drifting's been popular in Japan since '80s by down-hill racing. They were doing it on public roads, and seen few times crashing their cars as they lose the control. The anime "Initial D" is the story on drifters, FYI.

    I used to do this on huge parking lot in snow when I was young, but I am not confident to do this on a public road.

    Yoshi
     
  15. 96impalaSS

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    I've seen videos from Japan where all they do is drift around entire tracks without ever really going straight at all unless they mess up and lose control.(now thats a change)
     
  16. rob lay

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    "Initial D" is awesome! I loved that series. The entire part about school age asian girls and business men was a little weird to me though. :)

    Heck, redneck circletrack dirt racers have been drifting for 50+ years now.

    Hard to see through the rear view mirror, but here's me doing a split second drift when tires were cold at a race start in the 355...

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/videos/rob355c/20030803_355c_MSR_NASA_start.mpg
     
  17. Spasso

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    In the 'old days' it was called a power slide and sometimes a 4-wheel drift. It's not something that was invented recently by any means.

    Watch a sprint car race sometime if you want to see it done by 1800lb, 800HP cars at speeds approaching 100 MPH.
     
  18. sherpa23

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    "Takumi!! Takumi!!!" I love that series. My brother in law sends me the episodes. I agree with you that the whole teenage girl and the grown business man thing is super strange. How about that she calls him papa.
     
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    Did you beat the Caterham?
     
  21. Wasco

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    Part of my learning how to drive in 1977 was "drifting" as they call it now, on gravel roads with high banks in an old beat up rig. Just no way to hurt your self but you learn what it is like from the get go to loose control or how to drive in a slide. We just called it power sliding through the corners. And yes watch any sprint car race or even some baja races to see cars starting the turn before you get to it to throw yourself into a slide and at the apex powering as much as you can to blast yourself out of the corner.
     
  22. Aureus

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    Drifting is pure and simple a entertainment sport. The fact that it is judged shows that. They take into account the car and its power output, the amount of "Style", how close the driver gets to the wall, how long he drifts, the angle of the drift, whether he initiated before the turn or into it, etc... etc... Basically it becomes personal bias on the judges, and that is why they have more than one.

    Drifting has its own professional series, D1GP.

    That is a bit of an overstatement, they're running around on dirt. a bicycle can do what they do on dirt.

    A power slide is not drifting actually. Doing a power slide is something you do when you screwed up your drift. Also, those "1,800 lb, 800HP" cars are doing it on dirt... you should of gone down to the D1 event at Irwindale this year. You would of seen 800+ horsepower cars drifting around pavement, not dirt.

    Oversteer is laughed at. Oversteer is what you end up doing when you can’t drift yet.

    Taken from the D1GP website

    The main problem with defining what a drift is, is that it has not been defined. Lots of people maintain only a rear wheel drive car can drift, others say a front wheel drive car can (those disagree call them ass-dragers). Most people who do “drift" hold by what I said above, others probably disagree.
     
  23. rob lay

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    Heck no, he wasn't the best driver, but he was running 3 seconds a lap faster than me. He qualified on pole, but I had a better start until that corner and then he got back by. I wasn't slow, I was running low 1:23's at MSR, he was just faster. At the 2001 annual FCA meet at MSR the fastest clocked times of any Ferraris was 1:24-25.
     
  24. TigerAce

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    wow Rob, thanks for the clip. I can't wait to sit in your car!!! When, when, when???

    I noticed "Initial D" DVD was on sale at Fry's, so fairly surprised there's followers. The comic is still going and I have them all. I even saw Takumi's Corolla replica in McKinney last year. Takumi's GF & the business man, their relationship is called "assisting affair" meaning older people help girls to acquire whatever they want, and in return, he get... "Papa" in Japanese means a father, but it could also mean "sugar daddy" for some type of people.

    Drifting is more like for look like Eos said. I was told it doesn't reduce your lap time. I was in a car w/ Mr. Tsuchiya once & was amazed how he control a car w/ drifting. How do they know how much its' gonna drift & how long??? He was doing this on closed public road, down hill, at night w/ a friend's Skyline.

    Like Impala said, there's so-called Drifting Contest in Japan, and was popular since '80s. It just means it can make money for some people! In '60s, the comic "The Wolf Of Circuits" depicted drifting, so it is not knew, like Spasso said.

    Somehow, I never associated drifting w/ Ferrari before, so this thread caught my attention.

    Yoshi
     
  25. triXXXter

    triXXXter Formula Junior

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    Come on Rob that wasn't a "drift". Very smooth though.

    So the answer I guess is no. Since no has said anything about it, only describing it.

    Here is a video of drifting.
    http://www.racingflix.com/getvideo.asp?v=362&p=3
    and here
    http://www.racingflix.com/getvideo.asp?v=656&p=10
     

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