WTC would still be gone,followed by Sears Tower,Big Ben and Eiffel Tower, Israel would be in mass Exodus on the brink of a collapse,North Korea would be joined by Iraq,Iran etc in nuclear capability(clinton helped koreans),blown trains ,planes and automobiles would be happening all over the Civilized World and US would not even have any Cruise missiles left to bomb another Tylenol Plant in Bangladesh. But France and Jonas Hostrup would still like America.
The beneficiary of all the BS that would be shoved down our throats (and yanked out of our wallets) would be Occidental Petroleum instead of Halliburton, et al. Rush Limbaugh would have kept his drug addiction quiet too!!! DL
Hehe, I still like America today. I just can't stand people who think they are better than averyone else (Arrogance), so I don't like Bush. - America is the second choice of living I would choose if I could (Monaco in number 1 ) A great country indeed.
Jonas, Would you still say that if you could never leave Monaco, or is Monoco your first choice as long as you would be free to leave it as you saw fit?
The danger would have been not so much that Gore would have done nothing, but being a Democrat and percieved as weak on defence, he would have been forced to overreact. I can bet he would have used nuclear weapons against Afganistan on Sep 12 and then invaded half the Middle East with a million US troops.
Surprised there's been no mention of China yet & I can't imagine Gore getting rid of his best defense - Janet Reno.
Jonas, I'm going to try to put this as politely as possible to you because I have liked most of the Danes that I have met in my travels. -I've met many. It is very trendy in the UESR* to lecture Americans about everything. Very good fodder for the pols. WE don't like it. Actually, I resent it very deeply. My president is GWB, and I'm voting for him again. This country is always very split along this 2 party system, and the rest of the world never does get it that at least half of us aren't particularly interested in being perpetually lectured to by the residents of a continent that has spawned communism, fascism, and socialism, all in one century. And still nurtures & breeds socialist states like flies at a dump. You are no one at all to jump in with your attacks on my president's honesty character, intellect, or integrity. Tend to your own garden, please. Respectful and intellectual discourse is fine, but your posts generally are received very poorly by most in this country. We don't push our so called arrogant noses in Danish political business - Do us the same favor. Statements like "I like Americans, I just don't like Bush IS saying that you do not like me. - And that is how I take it. Period. *United European Socialist Rebublics
Hey guy. You are way, way off with that statement You really aren't even in the same ballpark dude!! Your lack of understanding of the US shines through like a beacon on a very foggy night, but is quite typical of misperceptions thoughout the 3rd world. Gore might have killed another camel or two, but the Taliban would still be rulers, Saddam would still be the butcher of Bagdad, France and Russia would be raking in the billions from Saddam's oil contracts, and ole albert would have sore knees from all the @ss kissing that he did at the UN. If we wanted to use nukes, half the world would have already be Chernoble-like long ago.
Reasoned discourse and Gabriel is an oxymoron. Can't seem to seperate the President from the office. Most of us can do exactly that. GWB has not told us the truth on many occassions, the jury is currently out on whether he was willfully false or just misinformed, but he sure was wrong. That's strike one. GWB has given the very wealthy a substantial tax cut, when our government needed the revenue, and now we have a 500 Billion deficit, perhaps as much as 750 Billions when the Iraq expenditures are finally added in, since they were omitted in the original budget. That's stirke two. Under GWB, Ashcroft has all but eliminated our 4th amendment rights, and its been done in such a manner that we lost those rights, but gained little in the way of security. That's strike three. I'm not counting attacking a country that had absolutely nothing to do with the terrorist strike on the US, and costing tens of thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and the goodwill of the rest of the world. No one is saying that 9/11 could have been avoided, perhaps yes, perhaps not, however so little has been done after that time to actually secure our country that its a joke, or would be a joke, if it didn't impact upon us in just an intrusive manner. The comment about sending all the lawyers to Iraq reminds me of Shakespear: Let kill all the lawyers. However, the uneducated still quote that because they don't know the preface: When plotting revolution, the first thing we need to do is to kill all the lawyers. Believe or not, like it or not, we make sure that those rights which you have are preserved, even if you're like the lady who'd rather not have them. I'll not respond to this mindless twit again, she'd dumb, rude, and what worse: she's boring. Art
HEY!!! I like G.Dubya. But the I think the fact stands that because he had the credibility on national defence he was able to offer a measured approach and waiting a month before acting. This should make all those Bush-haters think. For all his alleged ignorance and stupidity, the post 9/11 was managed exceedingly well.
You should all, (on both sides) just shut the hell up. Your not going to convert anyone to you way of thinking. Your just going to start another flame war thread on politics. Your TROLLING.
Ah, perhaps you should put aside that book you hastily snatched, and check your spelling instead.* Actually Art, I'm quite learned in Will's works. Still amazes me how easy it is to spot a pompous, bombastic, egocentric self aggrandizing bottom feeder, even on the web. Typical ham & egger. Better oxymoron here though, would be to use the words truthful, honest, and integrity in the same sentence as "lawyer." Your proselytizing to the masses regarding such concepts as you accuse others of having are tripe. Common swill. I don't believe we are going to be pals here Art.... *It's spelled "separate"
You know, though I read, read, read - Mojo summarized why I stopped posting on Political threads for a while. Not because of anybody else's behavior, necessarily - rather, my own - asking myself: am I busy "converting" or "trolling"? To that end, I've been thinking of starting a couple of threads: one called - "Has your mind been changed?" - or something like that (BTW, Not about A Specific Political Topic), but suspect it would turn into the same ol' "argument." second called - "Who wants to kiss and make up?" - Lawdy knows there's been some poison pens...
I am ashamed of my fellow Europeans. US saved our ass several times over. Last time it was the Balkan conflict. It is impolite and ungrateful to ***** and whine like that, after Normandy, after all the funds that were sent to aid other countries in times of genocide and natural disaster. Sure, this country can seem arrogant and self assured at times, but the US earned this particular right. I try not to post regarding politics, but some things press a button....
You do have to wonder what all those weird face he makes are all about.... don't we have classes we can send him to, to make him look more, presidential? Oh yeah...what's that thing about him running 3 businesses into the ground? You gotta admit, that's prety scarry. & a DUI, 502 or whatever you want to call it, how many of those do our president and vise president share between the 2 of them? Good judgement??? They're suposedly actually running this country...
So I suppose Bill Clinton showed good judgements when Monica was on her knees with his presidential c&%k in her month? Could it be he was too busy getting oral rather than defending the US from Bin Laden and his ilk..The Sudanese practically handed him to the US..Oh I forgot...the former Sec of State, Albright said we did not have actionable intelligence. Why do the euro's lack the nads to face down evil and continue to believe peace can be negotiated...the facist islamics hate and want all christians dead!!! Thank the USA every day you and your ancestors are not lamp shades speaking deutch. GWB has my vote !
Luke, thank you for your classy post. While there is nothing wrong with measured discourse, and countries disagreeing, many of our Eurotrash "friends" act as if the US had acted like Germany in WW1 & WW2 & the Balkans, instead of savig them from totalitarian butchery. Thank you for remembering & putting our role in modern Europe's existence in perspective. We, too, should remember to thank various Eurpoean allies for helping us: most significantly, post-Revolution France aided our fight for independence from Britain. But then, that was 230 years ago... Again, Luke, THANK YOU!!!
You know, it is too bad that "looking presidential" and "being presidential" are different things. Here is what "looking presidential" got us. I will take actions over oral anyday: Image Unavailable, Please Login