lets vote! best wax/sealant

Griots Best of Show Wax

 

Butter Wax, thats all I'm going to use from now on.

 

p21s/s100 cleaner
Vanilla Moose polish(i think thats the name)
p21s/s100 wax

I second the vote for Scottwax in Texas. I have never used him but have heard very good things about his work on many different boards. He has been really helpful to a lot of people on OT as well.

 

Screw it, I'll post the results of the wax test because I won't be able to sleep tonight if I don't.

If you are not using one of the top waxes on this list, then you are not using the best for your needs. Might as well get a plain white can called "Paste Wax" for 99 cents.

If you say to me that one wax is better than another, be prepared to prove WHY or your just one opinion vs an independant group of testers with all the waxes below kept in the exact same conditions at the same time along with my own semi-pro detailing experience.

This message from [email protected] [[email protected]] on Fri, 25 Oct 2002 23:47:58 CET

I ordered a wax test report for 46 waxes and polishes and finally
read the results when it arrived yesterday in the mail. Some
shocking, some not, but here they are.

All the products were bought off the shelf or online where they
could find them, there was no advertising or sponsorship from any
of the manufacturers, and compared against each other over a 6 week
period.

The products were eval'ed on:
price
amount of water beads using 500ml of water
bead size
shine
gloss
depth
clarity,
reflectivity
slickness
color enhancement
overall impression, and
final grade.

Road grime was not a factor in the tests unfortuantely, thats in the round two tests being conducted/prepared.

The grading was done in an A+ to F- fashion to form a GPA, and the results are below.

**************

1. Zaino Brother's Polish - second best looking and most durable of
all of the products. One of the only products to survive a week
long snow storm. Still provided protection after 7 months in the
elements. Most superior product and in the top 3 for ''looks'' too.

2. P21S Concours-look Carnuba - first best looking, then Zaino's
durability takes over after 3 weeks
3. Klasse All-in-One and Sealant Glaze
4. Armor All Protective Barrier
5. Pinnacle Souveran - third best looking, smells like
cocanut/banana and downright edible, Zaino's durability takes over
after 3 weeks
6. Pinnacle Paste Glaz Carnuba
7. Rain Dance Premium - name doesn't imply best protection, go for
Zaino
8. Mother's California Gold Carnuba Cleaner - availability is
awesome
9. Collinite Marque D'Elegance
10. Mother's California Gold Pure Carnuba
11. Blackfire
12. Collinite Super Doublecoat - good for at lesat 3 months of
protection, even through ''touch'' drive through car washes several
times a month, on par with a synthetic for protection
13. Blitz One Grand
14. Turtle Wax Finish 2001
15. Eagle One Wet Polish and Wax
16. Griot's Garage Carnuba Paste Wax
17. Nu Finish
18. Meguiar's Gold Class
19. Turtle Wax Emerald Series
20. Prestone Bullet Eax
21. Griot's Garage Best of Show
22. Meguiar's Medallion
23. Turtle Eax Super Hard Shell
24. 3M Perfect-IT Show Car Paste
25. Meguiar's #26 Hi-Tech
26. Meguiar's #16 Paste Wax
27. Turtle Eax Extreme Cleaner Wax
28. Eagle One Pure Carnuba
29. Zymol Carbon Carnuba
30. Finish First World Class Auto Polish
31. Liquid Glass Ultimate Auto Polish
32. Kit Carnuba Paste
33. Meguiar's #19 Professional Cleaner/Wax
34. Formula 113
35. Zymol SUV Zurtle Natural Liquid
36. Zymol Titanium Carnuba
37. Malm's Carnuba
38. Wizards Shine Master
39. Race Glaze
40. Zymol Concours Carnuba
41. The Wax Shop Super Glaze Liquid
42. Gliptone Original Carnuba Paste
43. Rally Cream Wax
44. Gliptone Platnium Series Paste
45. Meguiar's Quik Wax - not a polish, used to take off dust and
small particles during show or protect from rubber/track residue or
chain/bike grease
46. Lemon Pledge - not a polish, used to take off dust and small
particles during show

Sunny

 

Before Oct 25th 2002, I was using #25... Meguiar's Hi-Tech for a year and a half straight.

As soon as I switched to Pinnacle, all I did was wash the car and apply it directly onto the Meguiar's and the differences were PLAINLY visible.

If you don't go for the best (not that expensive) then really you shouldn't be reading this thread or doing your own detailing. If you think you can hang, then read my post above and tell me what I'm doing wrong.

Sunny

 

That difference you see is all that matters... not that you can tell one product from another, but what happens when you use two products side by side.

In my case, I was using a middle of the road wax. I layered a coat on once every 2-3 weeks and washed every 2-3 weeks. I used one of those California dusters and constantly left hairline scratches and streaks in the wax. I took a can of Pinnacle Souveran and applied it right on top of the Meguiar's after a car wash (I had at least 10 layers of Meguiars on there) and the differences were plainly visible and remarkable in how a $20 dollar difference could have made such a vast improvement.

Everyone will choose to suit themselves. However, in the side by side comparisons, I feel sorry for the people using something in the middle or bottom of this list. It can look SOOO much better without any preparation at all. Thats the point I can't drill across enough.

I have some Pinnacle Souveran left, my P21S is used up. We'll apply it directly to your wax and see if it makes any difference. If it does, you can keep the remainder of the can and do the whole car and I'll buy more.

The secret is spending 2 hours washing and waxing using a premium wax and the right washing/drying materials. If your already spending this time, there is no reason why it can't always be a concours shine.

Sunny

 

Hi JaguarXJ6, the difference I see, the time, price, the protection, etc... is all that matters . Have you had a chance to look at this product:
http://www.5starshine.com ? I found it while searching google for "best wax" tests.

thanks and happy holidays to all!
--tony

 

OT? What is this OT you speak of?

 

Damn, Autoglym Super Resin Polish wasn't in the wax test. O'well.....I've had great results with this, and used it on all my cars including my previous Ferrari, NSX, and current Ferrari.

I also add Autoglym Extra Gloss Protection. Stuff works wonders, and I've stuck with it ever since.

 

Welsh - I'm in FL and I know Scotwax...good guy.

The most important thing (more than the wax) is how you prep the car first. You need a good polish/cleaner with at buffer to get the paint perfect .... then put what you like on top.

I've tried them all, Zaino, Zymol, Klasse, etc.

Favorite still is 3m Imperial Hand Glaze with P21S on top. S100 is the same thing as P21S, but is marketed for motorcycles and available at most Harley shops. If you want P21S you have to order it online.

My .02 and I won two shows this year with above.

 

Zaino for me, for black cars a few coats of Z6 does wonders. Awesome product & their customer service is great also if you have any questions or run into any problems.

 

Its 15 quid for P21S and 25 quid for what you need for Zaino.

Before you balk at the price, you can stick Zaino out in the UK weather, drive it up to Scotland and bury it in a snow storm for a few weeks, come back, abuse it, and its still stuck on there protecting and looking good. Autoglym can't do that, I'm sorry

 

...and I'd never do that to my car

I wax after every other wash anyway, so this isn't an issue for me.

 

So do you guys use the whole Zaino system? For a late model Ferrari....Z2 and accelerator?

I still miss the reason why you need an accelerator. Don't mind the $$$...just the steps.

 

I use Zaino Z2, ZFX accelerator, and the car wash. I use other products for everything else.

The accelerator reduces drying times down to 10s of minutes instead of hours. Since you can apply up to 3 coats, the time saved in between is well worth the small cost.

Sunny