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1979 308 wheel bearing

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  1. adesalos

    adesalos Formula Junior

    Mar 19, 2003
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    Can anyone give me the p/ns for thesmall and big wheel bearings used in the front and back suspension/wheel of a 1979 308.

    I'd assume that these come from SKF, and we can buy them directly there without paying GBP15+ for them...
     
  2. atlantaman

    atlantaman Formula 3

    Mar 31, 2002
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    the rear takes 2 bearings 62208-2rs1 is one of them--lost the other box

    the front inside is lm67048/010/Q
    the front outside is lm11949/910/Q

    clutch shaft pilot bearing is 62202-2rs1
     
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  3. atlantaman

    atlantaman Formula 3

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    if someone can fill n some more numbers then we should send it to ROB and let him add it as a permanent location in the services area
     
  4. adesalos

    adesalos Formula Junior

    Mar 19, 2003
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    Thanks a bunch atlantaman!
    I assume that these are SKF brand.
    Also, anyone else for the missing part number?

    Rigth on for the suggestion. There is no need to pay FNA for being a 3rd party in getting spare parts from a manufacturer, especially on older cars...
     
  5. Sean F.

    Sean F. F1 Rookie

    Feb 4, 2003
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    Seach the old board, and this one for "bearings". Their is a long thread about replacing the front and rears and the part #'s. It's a standard bearing for many cars and you can get them and NAPA, O'Rielly or Autozone.


    oh, here.

    http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2359

    scroll down, verell has two posts listed on wheel bearings and replacing them.
     
  6. paul01

    paul01 Karting

    Jul 31, 2011
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    I try to get it in Germany for an 308 GTSi US. But it seems to be difficult even if they show the right one on websites. They deliver e.g. SKF lm67048/010/VU990 instead of Q.
    I know that all these bearings "fit" and are similar.
    Source: skf.com :
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    Does somebody use another SKF bearing on the front inside ?

    Paul
     
  7. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 11, 2001
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    So just what is your concern? I've got an older SKF catalog that says they developed a "TQ" tapered roller bearing with some sort of special internal feature(s) to better lubricate the ends of the rollers, but that would only be something for a very high RPM application IMO. The RPM and load requirements of the 308 inner front wheel bearing are well below those shown for any of those three tapered roller bearings so any of them would be A-OK in your application IMO.
     
  8. paul01

    paul01 Karting

    Jul 31, 2011
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    Yes many will fit. But the best one should be used IMO. As far as i know the oldest one was CK-LM67048 and the later replacement was LM67048/010/Q and not one of the others. SKF has 3 similar bearings. The Q-Version is the most expensive one.
    Maybe somebody uses everytime another bearing.
     
  9. 1monza

    1monza Formula Junior
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    I buy my wheel bearings from GT Car Parts and they are very reasonibly priced. Often less expensive then if I buy them from a bearing warehouse. SKF is typically the factory brand. Its also very important what bearing grease you use and how you set up the preload on the front wheel bearings.
     
  10. paul01

    paul01 Karting

    Jul 31, 2011
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    Ok. I do not care about $20 more or less. And yes i use special bearing grease. Preload/Space will be set.
     
  11. raemin

    raemin Formula 3

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    The higher rpm bearings are built with tighter tolerance, but they usually come with higher drag.

    The additional 1000 rpm is not meaningfull : 11.000 rpm is roughly 500mph already. There are quite a few other bits and odds likely to induce vibrations before these bearing.
     
  12. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    308 has never been known for wheel bearing issues. The front bearings are extremely ordinary and available at any auto parts store.
    They are not even sensitive to type of grease. Its one of the biggest non issues in Ferrari history. Buy some bearings, put some grease in them and forget it for 50,000 miles.
    We used to repack them at 30,000 mile services but modern greases are so good it was a waste of time and money so we quit doing it.
    Stress out over something worth while like how will Yelowstone end?
     
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  13. paul01

    paul01 Karting

    Jul 31, 2011
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    The values i show above are not important. We do not see the differences between the bearings like material treatment and surfaces. Costs $2...$90

    Again: Many bearings will fit. That is not the point. I have several bearings in my shop that fit incl. SKF.
    For me it is no waste of time. I look a little bit more exactly to these things.

    Maybe somebody knows the bearing Ferrari offers actually on the 308.
     
  14. raemin

    raemin Formula 3

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    They will probably throw at ypu whatever they have in the shelves that fits. Even back then they were quite creative: my late 400i gen1 is a mixed bag of parts from gen1 and gen2, my father's 365 was fixed at the delaership with 400 body panels and leatger trims.

    Rather than over spec new parts I would check that the rest of the front axle is still within its original specifications and parts properly balanced (when need be). As said they are plenty of other bits and odds that can induce some vibrations.

    A new set of bearings will probably outlast the bushings and fanblocks (a couple of times).
     
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  15. paul01

    paul01 Karting

    Jul 31, 2011
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    Yes right.
    Maybe i will use SKF LM67048/010/VU990 (is in the shop) instead of the wanted SKF LM67048/010/Q.
     
  16. paul01

    paul01 Karting

    Jul 31, 2011
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    Now the wanted SKF LM67048/010/Q is installed. And outside bearing LM11949/910/Q too. Works fine.
    Thanks to atlantaman for the information.
     
  17. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #17 Steve Magnusson, Dec 15, 2024
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2024
    Do you have any reference for what makes the Q suffix "better" in this application or what property/properties the Q suffix indicates?
     
  18. paul01

    paul01 Karting

    Jul 31, 2011
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    Q is not one of the typical bearing additions like CN, C3, 2RS2...
    SKF does not clarify it. I found the description for Q only in combination with other values as "low noise".
    In Germany the Q version costs more than 2 times of the other SKF bearings.
    So it is interesting for me what bearing Ferrari offers actually on the 308.
     

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