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  1. Admiral Thrawn

    Admiral Thrawn F1 Rookie

    Jul 2, 2003
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    Anyone know the status of the Ferrari '96 - '00 cars? These were the high-nosed designs, all using V10's after they became mandatory in '96.

    The models are as follows:

    '96 F310

    '97 F310B

    '98 F300

    '99 F399

    00' F1-2000

    Who owns them, how many are there, where are they, and If I wanted to buy a '97 car, how much would it cost?

    Thanks.
     
  2. BrentC

    BrentC Formula Junior

    Aug 13, 2003
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    I don't know where all of them ended up, but there was a '97 for sale about a year ago - may still be. Don't remember the price but it was near $1 million. I think it was advertised by Modena Motorsport, the German Ferrari guy who specializes in the old F1 cars. You might check with him to see if he still has it or where it ended up. I suspect he knows where most of those cars are. His ads are in all the classic car magazines (Classic & Sportscar; Thoroughbred & Classic Car, etc.).

    Maybe Michael Sheehan would have some info, too. Good luck.

    If you do end up getting one, please let everyone here know, and post pics!
     
  3. BrentC

    BrentC Formula Junior

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    Oh, I forgot - what about Ferrari's own Corse Cliente department! Have you tried them?
     
  4. Sempre_gilles

    Sempre_gilles Formula 3

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    For numbers build, see the "Formula 1: technical analysis" series of books by G. Piola, series started in 1994 with only an Italian version, later followed by English translations. Build numbers can be up to about 6 - 8 per season, depending on the number of write-offs after crashes and technical updates.

    Occasionally these cars are for sale, with 750.000 - 1 Million price tag.
     
  5. Bertus

    Bertus Formula 3

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  6. Admiral Thrawn

    Admiral Thrawn F1 Rookie

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    Thanks for the help guys!
     
  7. billnoon

    billnoon Formula 3
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    I have sold several of these cars.

    The last 97 car I had won both Monaco and Spa with Shuey. Probably the best of the best. The ask was $1M. Selling price was much less.

    I am sure i could get the car back if you are feeling brave.

    Good luck!

    Bill Noon
     
  8. Mike360

    Mike360 F1 Rookie

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  9. Admiral Thrawn

    Admiral Thrawn F1 Rookie

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    Another thing I'm interested about it learning how the F1 car safety features were implemented and progressed through the years. Anyone know of any detailed resources which explain the design, testing, resistance to certain levels of impact (i.e. crashing in x ways at x speeds into x barriers), etc ?
     
  10. THawkbh

    THawkbh Rookie

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    There is a place down the street from me that restores high profile race cars/street cars. They specialize in Ferrari. When the building is finished in july/august and the company moves in, I'll see if I can find anything for you.
     
  11. cwwhk

    cwwhk Formula 3

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    96' F310 was just put on internet sale on April 9th by the Japanese Ferrari distributor Cornes Motors. Its opening bid price is 840,000 Japanese Yen, which at current exchange rate is about US$760,000.

    You can check the car's history and specs at www.cornesmotor.com/F1_sale

    Although the web site is in Japanese, there is enough English for you to figure out most of it.

    I saw the car at Cornes' main Tokyo showroom just a couple of weeks ago. It's in immaculate condition. And actually saw it running at Fuji Speedway during a trackday event about two years ago.

    If you are serious about buying it, you better contact them soon. I am sure a lot of Japanese collectors have already put in their bids.
     
  12. Admiral Thrawn

    Admiral Thrawn F1 Rookie

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    I've found out some details about the cars I mentioned (and didn't mention) in my first post of this thread.

    1996 F310 600bhp 75 degree V10 6 gears 6 built

    1997 F310B 650bhp 75 degree V10 7 gears 9 built

    1998 F300 700bhp 80 degree V10 7 gears 8 built

    1999 F399 750bhp 80 degree V10 7 gears 8 built

    2000 F1-2000 770bhp ? degree V10 7 cars 8 built

    2001 F2001 840bhp 90 degree V10 7 gears ? built

    2002 F2002 900bhp ? degree V10 7 gears ? built

    2003 F2003-GA 930bhp ? degree V10 7 gears ? built

    2004 F2004 ? bhp ? degree V10 7 gears ? built / to be built

    Apparently the major problems with the Ferrari F1 cars during the late 90's was that their aero was underdesigned and they suffered from a lack of power. Also, I found out that the transition to a low-nose design in 2001 was largely as a result of dramatic new safety regulations.
     
  13. braincuttermd

    braincuttermd Karting

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    I could be mistaken, but wasn't the 1996 car a V12? I think it came in two forms, a low nose and later in the season, they did a high nose.
     
  14. Admiral Thrawn

    Admiral Thrawn F1 Rookie

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    V10's became mandatory for the 1996 season onwards. The last V12's were used in 1995.

    You are correct about there being both a low-nose and high-nose (introduced during Canadian GP) Ferrari during '96.

    Here are pictures of the low-nose design (F310) and high-nose design (F310/2) from 1996.

    The bottom photo is a result of Michael losing the rear end at Eau Rouge corner of Spa in Brussels during a practise session.
     

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