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Would a 288 GTO beat a 360 CS ?

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  1. spider

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    Hello all,

    I'm not a usually writter here but I have to admit that I read you a lot ...

    I am a bit surprised that being lots of F-Chatters here with lot of experience on track, nobody (sorry if someone did) has tried to compare performance of very beloved old Ferrari (250 GTO, 250 TR or even 288 GTO) with that of the newer ones.

    I was just wondering...It's the impresive 288 GTO with 400 bhp able to beat a 360 Modena with also 400 bhp?

    What would be the lap times of a 250 GTO vs a F512M or 550 Maranello?

    What about a 328 GTB vs a 250 GT SWB, for instance?

    Just wondering....
     
  2. Alex_V

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    Well, the stats I have say the 288 GTO does 0-60 in 5.0 and the 1/4 in 14.1

    The 360 CS does 0-60 in 4.0 and the 1/4 in 12.2

    So, in the basic stats the 360 CS wins it, as for track handling im not too sure, the 360 CS is newer and a road going version of the 360 GT, but the 288 GTO is a Ferrari supercar. But they are 20 years apart, so I think ill lean towards the 360 CS on this one

    I guess a 288 GTO owner and a 360 CS owner from this site should have a go, and tell us the results :D
     
  3. Doug.

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    The 288 GTO would most likely lose because it is a much older car. Newer ferrari's can obviously outrun MOST older Ferrari's because newer equipment can be pushed harder. If they were both built during the same time period, the 288 GTO might just be able to outrun a 360 CS.
     
  4. riverflyer

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    Spider, at the last Ferrari challenge series there was a 288 GTO on the track that was very fast. In fact we were amazed watching it go as from a distance I thougth it was a modded 328. I am not sure what, if anything had been done to this car but he was running hard on the heels of a 360CS and I would say was turning very similar lap times. I suspect the car had been updated but maybe some of the track guys know this car and can tell you. Very cool car and great sound too.
     
  5. F1racer

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    360 CS vs 288 GTO

    The 360 CS would win.
    It has better handling , better technology, better brakes plus the car is newer.

    I have some laptimes from the Fiorano race track.
    288 GTO: 1'36"00
    360 CS: 1'28"00


    here's some others laptimes...
    360 Modena: 1'31"50
    550 Maranello: 1'34"00
    575MM: 1'33"00
    F512 M: 1'37"00
    328 GTB 1'44"00

    As for the 250 GTO, 250 TR and the 250 SWB , I don't have any laptimes numbers.
     
  6. albertl

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    Driver talent and nerve will also factor into the equation. Good car + bad driver = losing proposition.
     
  7. PaulK

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    The 360 CS may win on the track But,
    The 288 wins my heart!
     
  8. Smiles

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    Right. The 360 would be a lot easier to post consistent lap times than the 288 GTO for most drivers.
     
  9. Alex_V

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    Would you happen to have a lap time for the Enzo or F50 or F40? I'd love to see those compared to the other F-cars.
     
  10. Aircon

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    Unfortunately, the track was changed in the early '90s, giving little meaning to the figures, really.
     
  11. 6.0 se

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    Huh??
     
  12. F1racer

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    I'v got :
    F40: 1:29"00
    F50: 1:27"00
    Enzo: 1:22"70
     
  13. Testacojones

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    Those stats on the 288GTO are not right by a long shot, maybe it was a car converted U.S.A. legal and the convertion was a very bad one. I have stats on the GTO that say
    0-60 in 4.7 sec.
    0-100 in 10.2
    0-125 in 16.2
    1/4 mile in 12.7
    Max speed 188 mph

    This test was done by Michele Alboreto and Stephan Johansson and both got the same results, they raced the GTO against a Mercedes AMG/W-124/V-8/5.6L/32-Valve 300 series modified of course. The 288GTO came ahead, then they exchanged cars and the GTO came ahead anyways. Those times were done by them during this comparison, it is true that this were european cars but that doesn't mean that all GTOs that came to the U.S.A. were as slow as the one you got your stats from. Even a 328 is faster to the 1/4 mile than the number you posted for the GTO, and the GTO was faster than the Testarossa either in Europe or American trim, also I know the numbers you posted are from R&T if I'm not mistaken but they are not accurate. The GTO is got 400hp din @ 7,000rpm and 440lb-ft @ 3,800 rpm and the weight is 2,557 pounds, at least those were the stats of this GTO and the magazine talked about it as if it was a stock GTO, the reason I say this is because I have a book and it talks about the factory specs and this are a little different,
    394bhp @7,000 rpm
    366 lbs/ft torque at 3,800 rpm
    0-62km in 4.9(factory)
    0-1/4mile in 12.7(factory)
    top speed is 189.5 mph (factory)

    I know the factory brochure type poster of the Testarossa also had stats of the Testarossa which were slower than the car when this was tested after it was delivered to the public so I believe that this times are real. For example R&T had tested the Testarossa and it was 5.3 to 60mph and for the
    1/4 mile it was 13.3 but later on they tested a car with a problem with the synchros and the car did a 0-60 in 6.2 and the 1/4 mile in 14.2 and ever since they have published this times for the Testarossa even when they said in the article that the car had problems!

    I think its also up the driver to be faster in any model the 360 or the GTO, maybe the 360 will be the most comfortable at speed but I think that the GTO will deliver the best ride as fun goes. As for me I'll take a GTO over the 360 and the reason is because for me and I don't care about anything else, the 288GTO is the best looking Ferrari of all, its got a lot of performance, a car of the times of Enzo, raw and brutal, I can care less if they only built 272 of them or if the value will stay up or if its way more rare than the 360. For me its because I like it better, the 360 is an awsome performer and fast as hell in the track but Enzo never got to see it in the flesh. Is all up to the driver if a 360 or GTO in the track, I saw a driver with track experience lap faster times in a '73 911 than a guy relatively new to track driving in a 348tb.
     
  14. Alex_V

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    "I'v got :
    F40: 1:29"00
    F50: 1:27"00
    Enzo: 1:22"70"

    Thanks John, WOW! I didnt realize how much the Enzo would crush an F50, that showls how fast this car really is............June 8th will be heavon for me....im seeing one!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D :D :D
     
  15. tbakowsky

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    288GTO by a long shot!! I could care less if the CS beat it. I could care less if it got beat by a VW. It is the most amazong car Ferrari has built. Enzo you say? Just read about how the Enzo was having a hard time keeping up to the 288 in the EVO mag artical. For real world on the street driving..the 288 wins hands down.
     
  16. masermartin

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    On www.fastdrive.org you can see a video (if you become a member--free--) with an F40 racing against the 360's of the Ferrari Challenge series. In this video they are rather neck and neck, but the 360 seems to be faster overall on this track. Likely because it is a smaller track.
    (Do the 360s use slicks? Could be an unfair advantage)
     
  17. ferrarifixer

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    I recently went to view 288, F40, F50, Enzo, also Porsche 959 and Jag XJ220 with a view to a service contract on them. They were all parked in the same room at a museum.........The 288 is the one I wanted to take back to the workshop there and then.......

    My 1990 Daihatsu Charade would have beaten any of them back to the workshop though.......
     

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