JPM is the best on cold tires that I've ever seen. He reminds me of Senna in the wet. When a driver has real abilities.... they show up in odd places even if he's not lucky enough to have the fastest car out-right. That's why MS was worried about getting passed at the restart. You may not think JPM has talent but MS does. Also JPM is one of the only great passers in F1 right now. You MS fans might not like that because he is usually trying to pass your guy. But you have to give a guy props for passing a faster car...not easy in F1. Every time he does it or tries it.. he makes himself more valuable for his next pay day.
How would MS benifit from that??? Do you know what happens when you lock one front wheel while turning? And if at a whopping 130 kph or however slow they were going, JM couldn't stop in time HOW CLOSE WAS HE??? Back the Fock up you POS!
Just remember, for the drivers.... F1 is a business (for the fan its a TV show). Its JPM's job to get TV time for his car... which translates to advertising exposure dollars for BMW and his other sponsors. 100's of millions of fans are watching when the safety car pulls off and if JPM passes MS that move is worth millions of dollars in free TV exposure for his sponsers. The other guy might win the war but JPM can win some battles.
He didn't try to flat spot the tires. Thing for one second. Behind a safty car is when you warm the tires and brakes. Although there isn't direct sunlight, it's not "that" dark in the tunnel. It was only a slight turn at their speed, and debris from the earlier wreck could have caused a wheel to lock up under braking. As for your D.C. mention, D.C was travelling blindingly slow with a huge rainfall, in a race with green flags flying. If DC thought it was unsafe to drive he should have pulled off. He said in the 04 Monaco GP that Sato should have pulled off do to his engine problems making it "unsafe". So think for one second. MS bashing aside, you have no point?
First off, Ralf is clear of any blame in his tunnel trouble. Unless he was slowing down and that caused it. You just don't see passing in the tunnel for that reason. And as foe MS "cheat" I'm not sure what you mean. "Jack-up the field" Please explain, I haven't heard that one befor. And what's a brake jab? Warming up the brakes buy braking quickly? Like everyone else in the field? Still not sure. "Little cheat" MS bashing?
Okay, of course. So lapped cars should just bang into the leader to capitalize on free air time. You make zero sense.
I'm quite sure MS didn't lock up by design, Just debris or loose rubber. If you run into the back of me, you are to close to brake or just not paying attention. With the money JM gets, he should be able to pay attention.
MS or Ferrari bashing again, How would MS gain from this??? Juan was too damn close! No one on his "side" is addressing this! I wonder why?
Again how would MS gain from this??? Would he think JM would crash to avoid a collision with him??? He was a lap down! MS could care less about "faking" JM. And as for the DC Spa thing, DC was "cruising on the racing line, under the GREEN FLAG and in a downpour. How could that be MS's fault? I know MS has made mistakes, everyone does. But to blame any driver for anothers error is either stupid or a weak attempt at bashing.
It was the front right wheel that was "rubbed" at the start. His front left was damaged in the collision.
I come here for fun (since I don't work for F1) and I was posting a idea and writing in a fun light style All I know is that I saw 40 yards of black rubber skid as MS lost control of his car and almost caused a chain reaction in the tunnel. If MS didn't lock his brakes he might have won the race. Did JPM lock MS brakes? NO! The only person, that locked his brakes in front of a pack of go-fast race car drivers is MS at the dark entrance of a tunnel. Ralph is not at fault in anyway. But some say he was blocking (which is fine) but when 2nd place car finally got fed up and passed, it crashed. I just wondered... in the back of his head if Ralph knows that he was part of the chain reaction, that took his brother out of a record breaking win? If there was no Ralph you wouldn't have had the safety car on the track?
If JM was that close that at 130 kph or 150 kph {or what ever slow speed they were at} that he couldn't stop in time, he was TOO DAMN close! You say JM may have swerved right to avoid whatever MS may have hit. It takes a GP driver about 20 miliseconds to turn the wheel, he only needed a few degrees of wheel turn to get the car to where you would say he wanted it. And you can brake very hard with the steering whel turned slightly. Have you ever seen an F1 car under full lock with the whell turned all the way to the left or right? Because I have. And the car goes straight. And if you let off the brakes a bit, the car turns. Do I need to email JM this thread so he can learn that? Wait.... Ok it's done. JM knows now.
You said: "under yellow you stay as close to the lead car as possible in anticipation for the restart of racing". I say: With a mile to go, at the speed of a snail, being a lap down "as you JMP pill popers say "IN A TUNNEL SO DARK YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING" {<<< Give me a break! JM should have been 500 metres behing MS. You whole first paragraph is false and a total 180 from what should be done. EWven if JM was in second, he should be wayyyyy back from MS. So when they come into the last few turns he can be gaining ground on the leader and by the time they get to the start line, be going faster and then make the pass. BUT JM was a lap down and was too close so there, done. JM was being petty and speared MS. My view.
LOL... he is too damn close for a man that wants to win a race. Doesn't he know this is "MS world" and no one should try to pass the "Golden-God" LOL Hey JPM... nice 4th place finish. Funny you never know how a race will turn out in the end. Don't give up half way in the middle. I once saw a guy win from 14th place.
You are right it isn't the highway in real life. Which means BACK THE **** UP! Becuase cars speed up and slow down without warning!!!! JM knew this and was not paying attention or just being a tool! If JM couldn't slow down quick enough how close was he??? Too Damn Close!!!
Why would MS "brake check" a lapped car???? With 1/2 lap or more to go befor the restart???? It doesn't make sense!
Dude: have another cup of coffee, and watch the race again b/c you obviously aren't paying attention to the facts. Fact: JPM was ONE LAP DOWN v. Schumi. He had no reason to be on MS' ass. This has nothing to do w/ "ms world" or whatever blah blah blah. Facts are facts, and the indisputable fact remains, JPM WAS ONE LAP DOWN. So quit it w/ the whining.
How many pills do you take each day? No facts and no point? Just racking up the post count for you free t-shirt?
He had a reason. He wanted to beat MS and he Did!!!! Gee..sometimes you can force a good drive to make a stupid mistake. Gee.... JPM is in 4th place and Mr Lock-up is in the wall. LOL In the business of F1 "collecting points is like picking up diamonds"
I think this article on www.speedtv.com wraps everything up. It's pretty much inline with what I said about both JPM and MS... Although he is still seething about the way his bid for a record sixth straight win to start the F1 season ended, World champion Michael Schumacher says he accepts that Juan Pablo Montoya did not intentionally take him out of the Monaco Grand Prix on Sunday. Schumacher dismissed accusations that he was irresponsible to warm his brakes in the darkness of the tunnel, saying he was following normal procedure before a restart. "When the accident with Montoya happened, I was leading the race," said Schumacher. "So the situation is that the race leader was knocked out of the race after being hit by a backmarker. I am sure there was no deliberate intention on his part, and I accept the steward's decision [to take no disciplinary action]. I was accelerating and braking just as we do when we go to the grid and in the standard way when running behind the safety car. "The tunnel was not even the first place I had done it, as I had used the same procedure earlier in the lap. A bit of smoke off the wheels is quite normal in these situations as you try to get heat into the front tires and the brakes. For his part, Montoya was neither accepting blame nor leveling it at Schumacher after their collision. However, the Colombian was keen to point out that it is not the first time Schumacher has triggered such a situation. Schumacher and Montoya have clashed before in drivers briefings about the technique behind a safety car, with Montoya claiming that Schumacher does it in such a way that he can't be closely followed. "He was doing a burn-out, I was doing a burn-out, Montoya said of their Monaco incident. He accelerated really hard and so did I, then he stepped on the brakes really hard. I moved to the right to try and avoid him and put the car up against the wall so we wouldn't hit, but we just touched. "If he was braking that hard he should have done it in a different place not in the middle of the tunnel. It's very hard to judge. I moved offline to try not to hit him and he came over exactly to where I was. I didn't have anywhere else to go. It was so unpredictable. He just stood on the brakes and you could see the left front locked for quite a while. As soon as I saw the smoke, I straightaway tried to avoid him but there was nowhere to go. I'm not going to blame him... I would put it down to a racing incident. If he wants to say anything else, I don't care really. My mind is pretty clear.
Sorry.. .... I'm lauging so hard it hurts!!! Whine when you're sad. I have a smile on my face! My guy didn't lock-up on a safety lap and wreck his car. I like MS. But I don't like sports fans that think he can do no wrong. ( sorry guys. I respect all of you... but just having some fun. MS is usually perfect )
I'm not sure who you are referring to with the "wants to win a race" but as everyone is saying, JPM was a lap down. OK, so he uses his "amazing cold tires abilities" to pass MS on the restart, then he gets the blue flag the next corner? Sure MS might not have intended to lock up his brakes, but does it really matter? What if he would have been on a clean part of the track, braked just as hard, and didn't lock up his brakes? Whose side would you be on now? There is nothing wrong with slowing down and speeding up. This actually reminds me of something JPM did last year which seems pretty dumb in retrospect too. I forget where it was, but MS was behind the pace car and JPM was in second (he actually had a chance this time, maybe it is more excusable) and ducked inside of MS on a turn as he was slowing down before the restart. I think what JPM needs to learn is that there isn't any passing when the SC is out.
How fast do you think they were going??? MS was going supersonic han had to scrub speed because he was off line???? Who says he was off line? The replays aren't clear enough {camera angles}. And as for JM not being fined, it doesn't mean MS was wrong, they just chalked it up to a racing collision. Bashomatic set on spin cycle?
