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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by TestShoot, Jun 2, 2004.

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  1. F40

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    It doesn't look bad at all... And it's faster than a 308...Somewhat. It's the same as NNO putting shields on his Chrysler,etc...
     
  2. TestShoot

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    jimmy love that 45 usp, i have the same one, i hate 9mm, no balls. i used to have a glock 42, that's 2 21's ;) i am getting the usp pro 2000 law enforcement model shortly. i'd rather hurt this dude than kill him, the project is in poor taste.
     
  3. Wickeddeus

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    9mm can stop as well as any 45.....depends on the load you use.
     
  4. UroTrash

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    Seems I read MagSafes in a .25ACP has the same 1 shot knock down rate as .45ACP ball.

    MagSafes in a .357Mag, IMHO, is the best defensive load in the world. Actually, alternate Magsafes with Black Talons in every other chamber is the best of both world.


    The hijacking is now over, back to the Miata thread...
     
  5. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
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    Sir,
    No bullet is "magic" and vastly superior to another. The idea that a MagSafe 25acp is equal to 45 ball is pure fantasy. Like people say about driving, you can get more out of your car with training and driver's schools. Same with shooting...hint, hint :)

    Dave
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    PS: Oh, and if you ever need a "cysto" table, call me and I will hook you up. :)
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  6. Morrie

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    The body mods look like all commonly-available bolt-on stuff. There are more sophisticated Miata body kits made by Simpson Engineering. Jim Simpson, a Ferrari buff, obviously had the marque in mind when he designed his kits.

    I have driven a Miata with a Jackson Racing supercharger. The biggest difference from stock is in the low end. The Jackson that I drove faded in the top gears. Jacksons come in 6 and 9 pound boost.

    I own a track-prepared Miata and a 328. Some have made fun of Miatas here, but I have a hard time deciding which car I like to drive the best. On a short, technical track, I could beat the 328 with the Miata. It is a little giant killer. Mid-Ohio, for example, is an ideal track for the Miata.
     
  7. Turb0flat4

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    Yeah, you're right, 10 is probably an optimistic underestimate, but I'm fairly certain the car should be running at least high 11s to low 12s. My reckoning is like this. I've noted that cars (without AWD) that tend to do around 14+ seconds from 0 to 100 also have around 14+ ETs trapping around 100 mph. Above and below the 14 sec "magic figure", the gaps b/w the 0 to 100 and the ETs widen progressively, with slower cars having an ET> (0 to 100) timings and a trap speed of sub 100 mph and faster cars having ET<(0 to 100) and a trap speed of over 100 mph. So the gap between ETs and 1/4 mile timings goes higher in absolute magnitude on either side of 14 seconds.

    If I'm not mistaken the 360 Modena does 0 to 100 in around 10+seconds and the quarter in around 12.8, well high twelves anyway. That gives a gap of approx 2 seconds. The Enzo (I'll accept your figures) gives a gap of 11.1 - 6.6 = 4.5 seconds. Since the modded Miata is going to fall somewhere b/w these two cars, a rough interpolation will give a gap of b/w 3 to 4 seconds. Since the 0 to 100 is 8 secs, I'm expecting an ET of b/w high 11s to low 12s.

    Of course, all this is an extremely simplified "rule of thumb" sort of analysis, totally ignoring the factors of differential gearing etc. But most non-AWD cars seem to fit this pattern I've noticed.

    My own car (WRX) will not fit because of the AWD. AWD cars get off the line in a hurry because of the good traction off the line, so the quarter mile timings are lowish for the power. But the trap speeds are low as well, because the time advantage was gained through good traction rather than sheer acceleration. The 0 to 100 mph times are also lowish compared to the ET, and more in keeping with the actual horsepower. For instance, a stock WRX (non STi) will do the quarter in mid 14s if driven properly, and with that timing, you'd expect a trap of just over 100 mph for a RWD car. However, the WRX's trap will fall short of this figure (I think it'll trap in the low 90s in mph).

    OK, sorry I got a little sidetracked there. But there's something else suspicious. If you argue it's the gearing that allows the Miata to do an 8 second 0 to 100 with "only" a 4 + second 0 to 60, then logically it should be geared on the high side. But that doesn't tie in with the lowish top speed of 138 mph. Things just don't add up, IMHO.

    Nice discussing these technicalities with you, BTW. I've always been a great fan of "armchair" dragracing leaving others to break their equipment. :D I much prefer roadcourse racing. Speaking of which, the Miata would probably do very well, it's a nice and nimble car, handles very well. Wonder why the seller didn't really emphasise that strength.
     
  8. 134282

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    LOL...! THAT was funny.... but the rest of this thread SUCKS...

    The condescending, closed-minded ignorance in this thread is overwhelming...
     
  9. 96impalaSS

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  10. jpl

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    I have a carbed 308 as well as a 97 Miata and sometimes it is tough to choose which is more fun to drive. As it is I use the Miata daily and the 308 for those special drives. A properly set up miata will run circles around a 308, 329 and possible a 348 on a tight and twisty circuit. Don't know the Miata until you take one out for a spin....
     
  11. 134282

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    Well, it's typical for a lot of folks here to judge something by its appearance... You think THIS is bad, you should go into off topic...
     
  12. robertgarven

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    i hate guys that put f-badges on other stuff :)
     
  13. WJHMH

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    Better check those belts on that motor, a 15k can be pricey.
     
  14. Etcetera

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    .357 S&W 686 L frame in stainless with 158 grain Cor-Bon, a Sig-Sauer 229 in .357 with 115 grain Cor-Bon, and a Glock 10MM model 29 are about all the self defense pitols a guy needs.

    That hasn't stopped me from shopping around for a Kimber Ultra CDPII in .45 for when I want to carry around light loads :).
     
  15. TestShoot

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    s.a.s.r. w/ SF shields oh baby. .50 not 5.0

    The car overall actually did not look bad in person, almost cool. I mentioned it to Jordan a few weeks ago when I called him thought he might know the owner or have driven the car. Put a Cavallino on it and he'll drive it ;)
     
  16. KNanthrup

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    Personally I don't like the car, HOWEVER...

    Believe it or not I give respect to him. Not because of the Ferrari badges, but because a lot of work, time, and money has gone into that car. Obviously the guy really had his mind set on this project and personally, unlike alot of these half-assed projects, I think he did a pretty quality job on the conversion. The hood was very nicely done, the exterior trim was done tastefully, the interior is super clean and that steering wheel is awesome! Once again, I would never drive such a car or do this to any car, but besides the point I think this guy did a quality job in achieving what his goal was.

    I don't want to start any arguements or flames here, but I pray that you are joking. I don't think this guy built the car to piss off Ferrari fans but rather to his own visions. The very thought of keying anyone else's car for ANY reason ESPECIALLY if you don't even know them is incredibly irresponsible and it's people that do this sort of thing that REALLY piss me off. So you don't like his car and you know where he lives... howbout sending him a note in the mail or something, don't **** up his car because of it. Sorry but vandelizing cars are one of my biggest if not the biggest pet peeve i have, I would seriously strangle anyone I saw doing it. It's not the car's fault for being made that way, it's the owners.
     
  17. f355spider

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    That is NOT an M4, or even a close facsimile of one. I have fired and used a real one....PM me and I would be happy to give you the specific difference between a civilian AR 15 and the current military M4...or you could just "google" it... BTW, 20 round military mags are quite reliable and have adequate capacity, nothing wrong with them.

    The one shown, appears to be an early "pre-ban" lower receiver, without the reinforcements or magazine "fence". It also has an aftermarket pistol grip and aftermarket collapsible stock. Also has the standard handguards, where the M4 has the larger "double heatshield" version....no bayonet lug...can't see the barrel profile....
     
  18. vincent355

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    It looks better than the lamarossa!

    you guys should see my lawn mower: it's red and has an overhead cam!
     
  19. TestShoot

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  20. tuningwerks

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  21. UroTrash

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    Please post over in the "why I hate people" thread! :)
     
  22. venusone

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    I guess you question my educate w/ the Pollo Rampante badge. Ah, yes Voodoo.
     
  23. GTO84

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    Ha ha ha check this out:
    PISA Junk get it?
     
  24. normhuff

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    "Keying a car?" I can't think of anything more cowardly someone could do to another person's automobile. Plus it only drives insurance rates up for everyone else. Someone is depriving a village of an idiot here IMO...
     

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