Hi Guys, Somebody plans to go to the Interclassics Fair in Maastricht this weekend? I will be there on saturday at the the stand of VARLN (Dutch Alfa Romeo Club). Maybe its nice to meet some Fchat members????? Ciao, Roel
Hi & good morning Roel, thanks a lot for the info and the great pics. Lots of real american vintage cars, a beautiful Stratos but aren`t there any Feraris? Sadly, its too far from me and the roads are snowy white here...no way to drive and go for it to me;-( Have fun, enjoy the show and please post some pics here. Wolfarossa FORZA FERRARI
Hi Roel, I have the plan to visit the fair. It is only 10 km from where I live and 300 meters from where I work. The only problem is that I work nightshifts on friday, saturday ansd sunday. So it depends a little bit on my shift. Don't you guys need a nice 328 GTS on your stand? How much is the entry ticket? What are the opening hours? Would be great to have a chance to meet you. Ton
Hello Roel, Ton and all I will be at Maastricht on Friday (early morning till late afternoon). Please call my mobile: 0049-172 7 550 555 This is the list of Ferraris which have been displayed at the "InterClassics" in Maastricht on January 10-12, 2003. The Ferraris are listed in order of their chassis number: 1) s/n 0419 GT - Ferrari 250 GT - "Europa" (not a official Ferrari term) silvermet., asking prize.....(send me a private email for details!), 45000kms from new and 1700 kms after total mechanical rebuild, fitted with original MM engine specifications (straight port cyl. head), complet with original build sheet and factory confirmation, all the letters of Ferrari and the owners in copy, out of prod. August 30, 1955 and delivered to Ecurie Francorchamps, raced by Jacques Swaters and Olivier Gendebien (Cotes de la Roche) and later Tour de Belgie, exhibited at the Brussels Motorshow in January 1956, sold after the Motorshow and registered to gentleman racer Leon Dernier (also known as L.D. or Elde) and raced by him, 2° owner: gentleman racer Compte (Duke) A. d' Assche (Belgium), 3° owner: Mister Van Peene (Belgium), 4° owner in 1972: Paul Schouwenburg (The Netherlands)-not registered, 5° owner in 1972: E. Ansaloni (Italy) - car is not registered, 6° owner in 1975: A. Auletta (Italy) - registered on 24. Febr. 1998 with Italian plate: AP868MH, 7° owner from December 2000: Dirk Libeert (Belgium) 2) s/n 0911 GT - Ferrari 250 GT Tour de France Scaglietti red, V12 Colombo engine, plate: TDF 250 (B) Pininfarina stand 3) s/n 1617 GT - Ferrari 250 GT Pininfarina Coupe 1961 red/tan, plate: ORN-008 (B), for sale V12, 240 hp, ~ 200 kms Pininfarina stand 4) s/n 2251 GT - Ferrari 250 GT SWB Pinin Berlinetta (Steel) red, plate: GV-21-TL (NL), anti rollbar owner: Michel Oprey (he will enter this car more often in 2003) yellow sticker at the rear: ...sponsored by my wife..... 5) s/n 2493 - Ferrari 250 GTE fitted with Drogo body red/black, not for sale! This Drogo body was built in 1964 by "Carrozzeria Sports Cars" (they officially produced several sportscars and prototypes for the Factory of that time...), in order of the Brazilian client Celso Lara Barberis for his Ferrari V 12 Testarossa s/n 0716. Barberis sold his special "Testarossa GTO" to an American client who lowered the roof line a few centimetres. The car was sold to Italy in the 70's - the Testarossa got a Testa body and the Drogo body was fixed on a shortened 250 GTE body (s/n 2493). The engine has got more power and is able to run about 250 kms/h. Vittorio Gatti of Milano (registerd MI H08236), 1988 sold by Finarte Auction, Modena for 211.000 USD, 1988 sold again by Christie's in May, 1993 seen in Monaco with plate N 301, 1994 sold to Andreas Flettner (living near Frankfurt), this 250 GT "Drogo" took part several times at the Ennstal Classic and some other classic car events. 6) s/n 07037 - Ferrari 275 GTB/2 silver/black., 1965, two German owners from new, an x-Auto Becker car, car for sale, asking prize 220.000 Euro but needs some restorations which will be ~ 35.000 Euros (as suggested by Piet Roeloffs, race specifications included), www.historicmotoring.com (Historic Beheer B.V.) 7) s/n 07963 - Ferrari 330 GT 2+2 Vignale "Shooting Brake" This car is a one-off body by Vignale in 1968 made under an original design by "Coco" Chinetti, the son of the Ferrari importer in the U.S.A for an American client. The car was made and displayed at the Turino Motor Show of 1968 and was in fact the Vignale Show Car that year. It has been restored to the original colours British Racing Green and bronze yellow top with a natural colour leather inside in 1998 - 2000. It is the ultimate Ferrari by Vignale, the registration number is: 25 LSY 75. I have driven that car in 2002 and was surprised about the good handling of it. stand: Vignale/Michelotti 8) s/n 06461 - Ferrari 275 GTS red/cream, plate: 603 LDT 75 very bad painting but mechanicly good stand: Van Asselt, Naarden - www.vanasselt.nl 9) s/n 24529 - Ferrari 308 GTB black/tan, plate: YL-22-LZ, for sale - asking prize 25.500 Euros stand Automuseum Bergeyk - www.automusa.nl 10) s/n 29001 - Ferrari 308 GTS 1981, red/black, plate: 829-AAE-83, for sale - asking prize 37.500 Euros stand: Van Asselt, Naarden - www.vanasselt.nl 11) s/n 33371 - Ferrari 308 GTB red/tan, no plates, no front window, no grill stand: Autobekleding De Greet, Hoeselt, Belgium 12) s/n 37239 - Ferrari 512 BB 1981, red/black, plate: LL-NN-18 for sale - asking prize 59.750 Euros stand: Van Asselt, Naarden - www.vanasselt.nl 13) s/n 37967 - Ferrari 308 GTSi converted with 288 GTO body parts by König, red/black, 288 GTO leather seats, alloy wheels, catalyzer, plate FJS - 756, full specialist services 3 month ago, for sale - asking prize 44.950 Euros, http://groups.msn.com/LesAutomobilesExtraordinaires phone: + 32 475.448.692 14) s/n 50979 - Ferrari 308 GTSi QV marone/beige, black roof, ~ 30.000 kms from new, plate: LJ-FZ-28 (NL) for sale - asking prize 40.000 Euros stand: Fleischeuer Automobielen, Hoensbroek (NL) 15) s/n 85234 - Ferrari Mondial T Cabriolet darkblue/blue, blue top, stand: Milano, Dorrdrecht (NL) 17) s/n 86264 - Ferrari Testarossa red/black, no plates, stand: Pro Tech Lakbescherming, www.protech.nl 18) s/n 99406 - Ferrari 456 GT black/black, plate 78-DF-JF, stand: W. Peeters (NL) 19) s/n 105935 - Ferrari F 355 Spider 8/98, silver/bordeauxred, black softtop, 45.000kms from new, plate 39-LG-FS (NL) stand: Milano, Dordrecht (NL) 20) s/n 110291 - Ferrari F 355 F1 Berlinetta 1998, red/black, plate SX-NJ-25 (NL) for sale - asking prize 94.500 Euros stand: Van Asselt, Naarden - www.vanasselt.nl 21) s/n 117685 - Ferrari 456 GTM darkblue/tan left hand plate but UK plate 14 EBZ !!!!! for sale - asking prize 139.500 Euros stand: Van Asselt, Naarden - www.vanasselt.nl MECC visitor Ferraris: 22) s/n 126064 - Ferrari 360 Spider F1 black/tan, plate 42-JF-BT (NL) 23) s/n 127673 - Ferrari 360 Spider titanium/brown, plate LUY 184 (B) So see you on Friday. Helmut Schnug [email protected]
Hi Ton, when you call me on my cellphone when you are there I will pick you up at the entrance so you will come in for free. (mail or pm for number) I do not know the exact opening hours but they will be around 10.00am to 17.00pm (maybe 18.00pm) Unfortunatly I won't be on the fair the whole day, maximum til 15.00pm. Would be great to have a chance to meet you. Thanx Roel
Hi Ton Ferraris which have been parked on the spectators carpark. I just got the confirmation that the organisation invited me to stay two days and that means: I will see you Ton and Roel and the rest of you. Call my mobile if you arrive. It is 0049-172 7 550 555. After Maastricht I will visit Mecanic Import at Sint-Truiden followed by the Ferrari Gallery at Brummen. Regards Helmut
Hi Guys !! I absolutely go to Interclassics. Probably sunday afternoon. Hopefully there are some F-cars for sale because I am still looking.... Saterday I am planning to check out a sharp Mondial 3.2 Coupe. Joren
Joren, just have a look to the list from Helmut! Amazing, I`m sure you will find the right toy....and maybe its a bit cheaper to buy some more in a package deal GOOD LUCK !!!!! Wolfarossa FORZA FERRARI
@ Roel, Please email me your mobile phonenumber again. Can't find it at this moment. I will definitely call you! Can I bring my wife? @ Joren, Fantastic! Tell us more about the Mondial! Where is it located? Ton
@ Ton : The Mondial is located somewhere near Antwerp, in Schoten to be more precise. I tried to call you already but you weren't home at that time. Didn't you know a 328 for sale BTW??? Check this out : www.cstorm.be Nice 308 GTB Vetroresina for sale. For what is concerned a Mondial I think I prefer the 3.2 above the T for maintenance issues. (engine out on T for major service!!) Joren
Remans, Schoten is very close to where I live. If you are in Schoten you also should visit 'Garage Philippe Sebille' ( www.gpsracing.be ). That's the Caterham importer for Belgium, but there are always some F-cars outside. He also underkeep 2 cars of the Shell Historic Challenge. You can find there adress at their site under contact.
Right right!! Forgot about those guys, will stop by on saterday as well. Have to go now, keep you guys posted. Ciao, Joren
Hi guys, enjoy the event during this cold winter days. Have fun and don`t forget to post some pics. Looks like a smal fchat. meeting: Ton, Roel, Joren, Helmut, Joop...and all the others. Wolfarossa FORZA FERRARI
Joren, Good luck with the Mondial! What is the milage? Does it look like a low milage car? Always check the car for usermarks. That will tell you more about the milage and the way the car is treated. Especially the interior and the enginebay. If you are looking for a good 328 then you have to think in the order of 40k. If you buy one cheaper it will definitely cost you the difference in repairs. If you need my help let me know. Ton
Joren, There is also a nice '94 Mondial T cab for sale at 39k. (58.000km) And I know a nice looking 328 GTS for sale for 35k but that was in a collection and did not move for 14 years. You never know what to get with these garagequeens. (49.000km) It is already for sale for two years! They started at 39k. Ton
...and if you are realy looking in this price range - up till 40K? Ask NINO, here from the forum and owner of the famous "Villa Modena". A friend of him, living in Heidelberg, Germany is selling his F 348 ts, one owner for less then 40K !!!! Good Luck buddy! Wolfarossa FORZA FERRARI
Wolfgang, I always wonder why they sell that kind of cars under the regular price. Does it have a high milage? When was the last major service. Ton If it is a clean car it's a good price.
Ton, thats just the NORMAL cash!!!! price and not the asking price. This gents don`t want to waste their time starting with 50k and ending like a turkish carpet seller after 5 hours some tea with at least 40K. No, the 348 is a one owner car with less km, brand new major serice....a.s.o. please feel free to contact Nino, its serious!!!!! Wolfarossa FORZA FERRARI
OK, I am in Maastricht sunday afternoon so hopefully I can meet some of you guys. If anybody knows a nice 308 or Mondial QV - 3.2 for sale in Belgium, please let me know. I am surfing through all kind of websites and slowly think I have had it all.... Cheers, Joren
From Groningen this is a looooooong way by train. It will take some very special cars to get me there. Does anybody know what Ferrari's are coming? I know Helmut posted a list of last year, but that was a Ferrari-related edition, the FCN was involved, as far as I know, it isn't now. Thanks
I think Helmut posted the Ferraris that will be on this years edition of Interclassic. Because I went 2 years ago to the Ferrari edition. And there where a lot more and niccer Ferraris. Like a 250 GTO, 500 Mondial, 550 Barchetta, 250SWB, 250TDF, 365 Daytona comp,...
Sorry, my fault, Helmuts list was from last year. Looking at that list I don't think I will be there. It will be around 4 hours by train I think, and then I have to go back. I will visit Munsterhuis Hengelo tomorrow, that'll be enough Ferrari for the weekend. Does anybody know or there will be a 360 CS there? It isn't in their stocklist, but the CS is new, so that doesn't say much