Can't seem to find any of the old road tests...anyone have max speeds in gears for the 360 handy?
From R&T August 1999: 1st 49MPH 2nd 75MPH 3rd 100MPH 4th 127MPH 5th 157MPH 6th 189MPH Per owner's manual, the top speed is 184MPH and the quarter mile passed at 12.6 seconds. These things varies of course due to a lot of factors.
Automobile Nov '03 I .........48 mph II ........72 mph III .......99 mph IV ......124 mph V........152 mph VI.......183 mph Standing 1/4-mile..........12.6 sec @ 110 mph or from another source in Europe - I find some of the info useful (must have been hot - top only 173mph) DRIVETRAIN Final-drive ratio..........4.44:1, electronic limited slip Gear..........Ratio..........Mph/1000 rpm..........Max. test speed I...............3.29...........5.3........................45 mph (8500 rpm) II..............2.16...........8.0........................68 mph (8500 rpm) III.............1.61..........10.8.......................91 mph (8500 rpm) IV.............1.27..........13.6......................116 mph (8500 rpm) V..............1.03..........16.8......................143 mph (8500 rpm) VI.............0.85..........20.4......................173 mph (8500 rpm) ACCELERATION ..........................Seconds 0 to 30 mph..........1.9 40 mph.................2.5 50 mph.................3.6 60 mph.................4.5 70 mph.................5.8 80 mph.................7.1 90 mph.................8.7 100 mph..............10.5 110 mph..............12.4 120 mph..............15.1 130 mph..............17.9 140 mph..............21.9 150 mph..............27.1 160 mph..............35.3 Street start, 5-60 mph..........5.6 Top-gear acceleration, 30-50 mph..........7.4 50-70 mph..........7.4 Standing 1/4-mile..........13.0 sec @ 112 mph Top speed (redline limited)..........173 mph
DRIVETRAIN Final-drive ratio..........4.44:1, electronic limited slip Gear..........Ratio..........Mph/1000 rpm..........Max. test speed I...............3.29...........5.3........................45 mph (8500 rpm) II..............2.16...........8.0........................68 mph (8500 rpm) III.............1.61..........10.8.......................91 mph (8500 rpm) IV.............1.27..........13.6......................116 mph (8500 rpm) V..............1.03..........16.8......................143 mph (8500 rpm) VI.............0.85..........20.4......................173 mph (8500 rpm) Quite a difference in those speeds in gears...there hasn't been a change in ratios, has there?
same gear ratios as in the OM the reason I like the numbers is that I could verify some of them with my car, i.e. I did see them with an Escort GT2 device - most of the rolling start numbers match you could argue about what that means a.) the numbers are done by a bunch of amateurs b.) the car was slow and mine . dont even go there c.) the car magazines are optimistic I don't trust the magazine numbers; would you as a car manufacturer give them a random sample of your car? lots of opportunity for window dressing anyhow loosing 10mph in top speed is a lot I agree
I was looking more at, say 5th gear...if 8500 in 5th equals 143mph, how in the world did R&T figure 157mph? Something doesn't add up, and it doesn't have anything to do with optimistic stop watches, it's just a mathematical equation.
The 360's redline is 8500, but the tack-out fuel cutout is at 8750 I belive (it was in the F355 at least.) That could account for some of it. Best! Ben.
I have not been able to find out when the Motronic ME 7.3 ECU intervenes by cutting of the injectors. The manual says 7240 revs/min ????? The R&T values would indicate ~200rpm above 8500rpm and 173 mph would indicate ~500rpm below if one would use the mph/1000rpm factor for 184mph. While I could see that someone would run the car into the rev limiter during such a test I have doubts that -500rpm can be blamed on operator error. the Automobile Nov '03 numbers look pretty reasonable considering the factory 184mph/8500rpm specification with the exception of the III gear value.
thomas, who said extracting that extra 250rpm is in 'error' ? I'm sure it's 8750 in the 355, but Ferrari may have knocked it down in the 360 (more torque.) Best! Ben.
FWIW Here is some info from an article about Digi-Tec ECU's that was in the December 02 issue of FORZA (the one with Chris Parr's F40) The stock 360 rev limiter cuts in at 8,700rpm. In addition to the rev limiter the top speed was restricted it to 300km/h (186mph). Starting with the 2001 model year top speed limit was raised to 310km/h (194mph)
would not say an error; personally I simply do not like to exceed redline I assumed that one should have shifted well before to get in a better torque range; 8000-8500 rpm seems close to the optimum shift range to me if you look at the torque curve. And even in the unlikely case (for almost all of my driving) that I am out of gears I do hate the thought of the engine running into the rev limiter as well as the feel. I am not sure what the dynamics are but fully open throttle and fuel cut off dont sound like a well defined state to me. I have similar feelings about the situation when the injectors start working again and power returns. Now I think the engine is the coolest part of my car so consider me biased. I have not found out about the 360, but I assume that there is a good reason that the 996 TT tracks the number of times you hit the rev limiter in fact it even goes through the trouble to track two ranges. This is one of the indicators P use to determine if you have used/abused/tracked your car (and no there is no reset).
<note to self, never ever buy a 996...> I agree with you, I don't want to hit the rev limiter in actual driving, especially when I need the power to stick the rear end (say, I dunno, in one of those turns or something Some Fchatters did the math on the old board, and for a 355 at least, quickest acceleration (area under curve) came from reving the car all the way out, and not 'short-shifting' it. This isn't the norm, most cars will actually go quicker if you shift before redline. I too never thought it was really best to hit fuel cutout at full revs. Seems a little harsh. Though I belive it's actually harder on most motors to just close the throttle at full revs (due to rod elongation.) Best! Ben.