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i wish i could find an article from a while back that debunks Ferraris (as well as some other manufacturers) claims of insane downforce. The enzo...
I obviously sprinkled some extra drama on my original post (looks like it worked lol). I think most people here realize that i am not directly...
Funny thread, been a few funny ones here lol. To try to stay on topic, I did a car deal with Cats this year, they are good guys no...
Aero has a role in trap speeds as many have pointed out already because it's the most obvious "what could it be". There are highly built wagons...
all manufacturers will state crank numbers
I am purely speculating but I think most of the customer f12s are honest 680-710hp cars. Press f12 might be the advertised 740-760hp. I second...
Ok ok I am no saint here. Let's move on now that everybody is friends again no need to discuss it any further.
On the Dyno: Ferarri F12berlinetta - Portland Speed Industries here is that F12 dyno that puts down 585 at the wheels.
I am glad we are talking about the 488 as by all accounts it seems to be a lot faster than the previous gen F cars. I did find some data, keep in...
that works Paul.
Here is the problem with the data (and exoticardreamer touched upon this i think); the listed data includes all or some runs, many of these runs...
fair enough. Pick a favorite kids charity for the $500.
That's not true go back and Reread. There was another poster who owns a f12 who backed up what I was hinting at more or less as his car wasn't as...
Ross. Every post you have made has been off topic and an attack. How are you contributing anything useful ? I started a legitimate topic and...
That's ok I am perfectly fine being a jerk in some people's eyes. I doubt I will post after I end this car debate bet. The way Paul and his...
I am glad there are at least a few neutral posters here that deal in reason. Point is paulchuba has been spewing nonsense lies and derogatory...
Ylshin, you'll another pm with the dl/titles on top of cars on Monday. After that I am guessing paulchubs will still say someone else paid for...
Paul, I asked you to PM me all of this "info" you detectived with no reply. If your info is correct I'll come back here with a full apology and...
Not sure what I missed, this paulchubs guy is a fantasy land internet detective lol, minus any correct data. I'll snap the titles next to cars...
Right but both the f12 and the Porsche are in their sweet spot power bands where they make max power right off the bat, that's why gears exist....