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  1. Dan Ciezniewzky

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    am I the only one that notices that the people that think this is ok are mostly from California?? Wacky left coast :/
     
  2. Mr Payne

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    Well, make an argument to change my mind?
     
  3. C. Losito

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    Arguments don't change people's minds.
     
  4. Mr Payne

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    They do for logical people. :)

    My argument is already the most logical one though, so you wouldn't be able to. :)
     
  5. PSk

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    Er, actually listening is required for people to change their mind. Most arguments involve little listening ...

    When it comes to communication, listening (or reading) is actually the most important skill ... not yelling ;)

    Pete
     
  6. WILLIAM H

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    Other countries have much less sexual hang ups than the US so its not such a big issue there. Only interesting women are interested in Menage a trois etc :)
    I agree with Woody Allen that " Sex is only dirty when you do it right." :)LOL
     
  7. Texas Forever

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    OMG!!!!!!!!!

    Carbon reading, grasp, Reader's Digest. Tell me it ain't so!
     
  8. LAfun2

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    You are correct William. There has been a recent study out (I forgot the journal/newspaper), that did a survey of over 65K women.

    Their conclusion using when a women loses her viriginity, # of sexual encounters per week, # of sexual partners, they concluded that women in America were the most conservative.
     
  9. nwocorp

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    thats gotta suck
     
  10. ross

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    i guess i am old fashioned. i believe in sticking with a commitment. marriage is a commitment not only to your partner but to your kids. swinging and orgies etc is just not for me. i wont judge those who do so, but i also would think twice about taking their word on something important to me - the difference in values would be too difficult to overcome.

    the reason we are brought up with the more stringent standards ingrained is because society has programmed this for us. but this has been the case in every civilization since time began. and i think the reason for this is to safeguard against a breakdown in ethical behavior in general, because its always a slippery slope.

    all this imho of course.
     
  11. LAfun2

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    Ross good points. However, I have an issue with your last sentence. Why would you think people's sexual behavior have any impact on their other behaviors?

    I mean if they practice a swingers lifestyle, I don't doubt their word has any less values in the business world, or they want to swing inthe business world as well.

    I guess what I am saying is, I think the values could be separated in the business world versus the bedroom
     
  12. WILLIAM H

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    Its the old English puritanical crapp. Thats all. In other countries its no bug deal. Some countries in Asia, Africa & the Middle East still practice ploygamy. The French coined the term Menage a Trois so they cant be against it. I know most latins are for it.

    I think its wierd that in the US the media proposes that you cant run for office unless you are a Saint. LOL Look at Ahnold he had tons of sex partners & gang bangs in gyms & now he's the Governator:)

    I loved it when he told the media "Why dont you stop focusing on how many blow jobs I got in the 70s and pay attention to the issues " Go Ahnuld:)

    FDR, JFK, BJC all had affairs, Even George Washington had his flings. The media has their head up there arse & of course ignorant people buy it wholesale
     
  13. LAfun2

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    I think we live in a society which doesn't practice what it preaches. Simple as that.
     
  14. RussianM3_dude

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    People who are against multiple partners are just jealous they can't get that kind of action (priests for example). That my idea, an I am sticking to it.
     
  15. ross

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    well i think a persons mind does not seperate his attitude depending on what they are doing. i think the attitudes in any situation demonstrate that persons character in all situations, perhaps to a lesser or greater degree, but in the same direction. i will give you a completely unscientific and anecdotal example: in my business your word is your bond - i make deals for millions of dollars based on a yes or no over the phone; the people who i know to have very liberal attitudes regarding their marriage, are the same people who are the most likely to bend the rules and obfuscate and not be completely trustworthy on the business side. of course this is not true in 100pct of the cases, but after 16 years of watching people, i know the ones i can trust without looking through every line of the contract, vs those who i have to check everything on - and those are usually people who have a very loose concept of sex and marriage.

    at the same time, i dont really care what people do on their own time. it is not my business. but you have asked us to express our opinions if we were to know exactly what everybody was up to etc. and thats it. people can do all they want behind closed doors, but i dont need or want to know, so dont tell me, or try and coerce me to agree with it.
     
  16. BabyM

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    A fun thread and I have insomnia so I might as well chime in...

    In my experience multiple partners is more of a novelty and physical experience than sex within the confines of a monogamous pairing.

    Quite simply there are physical pleasures to be had that aren't possible with only two people in the bed. But to me, that's all it is, physical pleasure. At the end of it, the three of us aren't going to make a happy little household...

    Group sex can be fun but it is not for the faint of heart or for those in a weak relationship. Everyone needs to be on the same page so there aren't hurt feelings or suspicions after the fact.

    If everyone can agree that it is a fun thing to do, then to me there is no question of im/morality and it has bearing on marriage or homemaking, unless one of the parties was deceived or coerced in some way.
     
  17. LAfun2

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    Ross,

    I think you may have misinterpreted my post. It was meant solely as a question, and never did I want to "coerce" you to agree to anything. If I wanted that only, probably wouldn't need to post getting peoples opinion on the matter. :)

    I do believe there is some credence in what you say, as far as certain people's morality in the bedroom seeping into the business and social climates.

    However, in my experience, people in the swinging lifestyle, tend to be your doctors/lawyers/business owners and such. THey are not your average 21 year old college student. I guess my point is, most of these clubs cater to people who have been in long term committed relationships. I know that goes against the stereotype, but that is actually true. It is not uncommon to see people there who have been married for 10 years, 20 yeras, and so on.

    Another point is, people often don't know how someone conducts themveles in the bedroom, unless they talk about it. Thus you could be doing million dollar deals on a word of someone, and they keep the word, yet they are swingers. I guess point being, you can never know, and thus its hard to judge.

    But I understand that if someone told you that they are swingers, your mind may think that their word has less value and they might have committment problems and will break the rules/word later. That is the society we live in, and the stereotypes have been engrained in lot of us.


    -Ryan
     
  18. mike550

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    I take it you are a swinger or into the swinging lifestyle. How long have you been doing this? I guess that means your girlfriend / wife is into it also. Probably all fine till she brings 3 guys home and wants to have a big party with you. Who knows, maybe that floats your boat too.

    FYI - I am not into it. However, best of luck in your lifestyle.
     
  19. LAfun2

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    Thank you Mike.
     

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