Have you EVER burned a kit car owner posing his car as a "real thing"???

Rick

A few years ago an idiot I know turned up in a fake type 37 Bugatti, claiming it was real he then proceded to prattle on about how successfull he was and how few people his age could afford one, really trying to belittle me and where I had got to in my carrer at that stage.
You have no idea how funny I found it to sit on the lawn outside his fathers house with a copy of the previous months Classic and Sportscar and compare his "real" type 37 with the identical fake type 37 advertised.................. even down to the cast iron MGB looking engine and box! a quick phone call to the person who had sold it confirmed that the "real" bug was indeed the fake!

Whilst I understand the pride some people take in building these things, I'm sure you can understand that for some people its a shortcut to getting a car that looks like the one they lust after and try to fool people into thinking their far more successfull than they actually are

 

If you see cars as art, then that's what a fake is. I love Daytonas and a bad fake is painful to look at. A good one is like a photograph of a Monet. Looks nice but wait until you see a real one!

If you see cars as machines to be driven, then the fake is just junk, and Ferraris are driver's cars. You can't do anything with a Vette Daytona on the street that a regular Vette won't do, except fool people.

I'm sorry I missed the Pebble Beach Fake Concourse. What's the criteria for judging a genuine fake as opposed to a reproduction fake?

Ken

 

Wow, you're such a real "CAR GUY". I checked out your profile....how do you spell Camaro?

I love the line I could afford a Ferrari, but I perfer to invest in real estate - whatever.

 

I have a real Ferrari and a replica and enjoy them both for what they are.

I'm the first to explain to people that the replica is just that, but often enough people don't even understand the concept of a kit car. People who are trying to pass a replica off as a real one are just making fools out of themselves. No replica doesn't have at least one give away to tell the difference.

 

here we go again.............





(but will we're at it, my .02....I don't mind replicas and kits, as long as the owners don't try and pass them off as the real thing. that is way annoying)
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Agreed.

Although I have never met somebody trying to "sell" it as real. The closest to that would be a friend of mine with a Superformance Cobra who tries to convince me that his car is a continuation and not a replica. Of course I'll always tease him about that.

 

IR that a couple of years ago, A board member (John Hougnwhatshisname?) was walking his dog and some kids in a ricer were flying down his street and he yelled at them. They said something back and he said, "wait here". He went back to his house and pulled up in his 355C and said something to the effect, "this is a real car and a real wing now go home"

Does anyone else remember the story? I could not find in on the old board.

 

Can we start then with Ferrari in Modena? They have a replica 125 on display in the Galleria. At least they admit that it is a replica.

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YES!!!!!!

 

Oh really?
Having attended both events, I have to ask...
Exactly what class did you happen to be in at Pebble Beach?????
And exactly which of the 10 Ferrari classes do you enter a replicar into at the FCA Concours?

 

He gets kinda testy when you bring up "replica" cars yet his profile, he says he wants a real one.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=135112117&postcount=11

 

1. I am NOT a rich Ferrari owner!

2. I have no need to show off my "manhood" to anyone!

3. I have no problem with kit cars in principle!

4. Arrogant owners of kit cars suck!

 

Not to get back to the original post, but I do remember seeing a "real" 308 on Ebay about 3 years ago that had a Chevy 350 engine in it. Guess it was cheaper to stick a new Chevy engine in it, than to rebuild the Ferrari engine. So would that qualify as the "real thing"? It wasn't a kit car.

 

Rick didn't enter of course into any of the classes at the FCA Nationals in Indy this year, but his car was there. Here he is on the F1 track. Rick can speak for himself, but I did want to mention that he is never trying to pass his car off as real. At shows he actually has a post explaining the background of the car.
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It probabbly was a kit car...but, a lot of real Ferraris have had their engines removed and replaced by a smalll block Chevy when the owner was faced with a $15k+ cost to rebuild .

 

Fact is, arrogant owners of the real thing suck too.

 

With my GTO replica I always tell people it's a replica.
Friends often say I should just say it's a real Ferrari (probably because it's a shorter explanation/conversation).
I always say "I'd rather they think it's a replica. That way I don't have to worry about them stealing one of my emblems to later claim they got it off a REAL Ferrari."

Now that I have a real one I feel like telling them it's a replica.
But I don't.

 

The issue here is fraud, not having a particular "anything". Anytime someone passes off anything as being something else, for whatever reason, they are lying and that is the crux of the matter. Liars are the issue - not the vehicle.

 

You got it right!

Fortunately, I have not yet met an arrogant Ferrari owner to date. So far every owner that I have come across has been down to earth, sincere, and very passionate about their Ferrari's. Those are the ONLY guys I would associate with.

 

I like the responses guys, didn't mean to ruffle so many feathers, didn't mean coming off too strong. But the point is that people should appreciate what they have. You are going to meet all types of people pawning off fake anything as real. Blow it off because it happens to everyone sooner or later. Everyone isn't rich enough to own an orginal. I love Ferraris, but as I stated my likes are for the vintage ones, that I truely can't afford. Yes I can buy a 308/328 or better, but my love is the Calf. Spyder, Daytona, and GT250. Can't afford them and would be afraid to drive them any place. So the best I could do was resurrect a Vette into a half breed and enjoy it myself. I love going to car shows, all types and just hanging with all sorts of car lovers. Most of the Ferrari friends that I have meet over the past 16 years accept me and complement my toy but know that it's not real. I don't try to hide the fact and most don't mind if I join their events. We all do it for the love of cars. The sign says it, the interior is still primarily Vette. There are numbers of real Ferrari rebodied to look like more expensive models, are they FAKES? Real ferrari but not the exact model they are based on.

Blow off the jerks and enjoy the ride, it's more fun that way.

By the way let me clarify. I was not entered into Pebble Beach that would be impossible, but had the toy out there for the Monterey Weekend and it was my dream come true.